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- From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
- Subject: Re: The Problem with UNIX
- Message-ID: <id.NEVU.Z2J@ferranti.com>
- Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
- References: <1992Nov9.172715.16367@cs.wisc.edu>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:23:41 GMT
- Lines: 53
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- In article <1992Nov9.172715.16367@cs.wisc.edu> so@brownie.cs.wisc.edu (Bryan S. So) writes:
- > I am doing research on UNIX command line interface problems.
- > I am sure everyone has his/her favorite UNIX troubles, would
- > you post or email me what's your favorites? What should have
- > been done by UNIX to resolve that problem in general?
-
- UNIX isn't an entity that can *do* anything. A better question would be
- what could (Bell Labs, Thompson, Ritchie, ...) have done to make UNIX
- easier to use? Well, Bell Labs could have bought all the UNIX people
- dumb terminals instead of teletypes, even if that was hideously expensive,
- so that they wouldn't have as much of an incentive to shorten command lines.
- Have you ever worked on a genuine ASR33?
-
- > To start the discussion, consider the following problems:
-
- PIP FILE.=FILE.
-
- PIP FILE.*;*/DE
-
- PIP LP:=[1,54]PIP.COM
-
- > Sending binary file should be uuencoded first.
-
- Nope. It should say "mail: Standard input contains NULL characters." And
- abort.
-
- > This is a general type conflict problem.
-
- No, it's an error-checking problem.
-
- These aren't "UNIX" problems. These are general "Customer Engineering"
- problems. UNIX is pretty good by the general standards of operating systems
- of the time. The problem is that AT&T/USG/USL/Univel/whoever it is this week
- has never sat down and done a thorough study of what is needed to "flatten"
- the user interface. It's 1992, not 1972.
-
- The most important problem, in my opinion, you never even mentioned:
-
- cat: cannot open /blog/crottled/greeps
-
- What does this mean? /blog doesn't exist? Permissions are wrong? Some
- system is down? What?
-
- /blog/crottled/greeps: Network I/O error.
- cat: Can't open input file.
-
- Just (a) fixing all applications so they call perror on failure, and (b)
- cutting down on the overloading of error messages, would do wonders.
- --
- Peter da Silva / 77487-5012 USA / +1 713 274 5180
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