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- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:29:54 -0500
- From: Nicholas Kramer <nk24+@andrew.cmu.edu>
- Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD (long)
- In-Reply-To: <BxKKtu.MMM@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
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- Excerpts from netnews.comp.unix.questions: 11-Nov-92 Re: IS UNIX DEAD
- (long) by Paul Prescod@napier.uwat
- >>Geez, I can't count how often I saved a version of a file by typing
- >> mv Driver.o Driver.O
- >> mv source.c source.C
-
- I gotta agree. Even though I'm a Unix person, I kinda like the idea of
- OS/2's case preservation but non-case sensitive. Personally, I hate
- using the shift key any more than absolutely necessary, and I gotta
- admit I haven't found a whole lot of instances of case sensitivity being
- useful in file names. (C programming is another story..)
-
- Excerpts from netnews.comp.unix.questions: 9-Nov-92 Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
- (long) by Paul Prescod@napier.uwat
- >You get another one...like Norton Desktop, NewWave, PM (for OS/2).
-
- Unless I'm missing something, that's the "Program manager", not the
- window manager. A window manager is something that draws the nifty
- little boarders around windows and controls the size of the window. A
- program manager is a regular application that launches, you guessed it,
- programs. You can change the program launcher, but as best I know, you
- can't change the window manager. Norton Desktop for Windows does nothing
- to change the way the little buttons and all look, and I don't believe
- it can be done.
-
- Excerpts from mail: 11-Nov-92 Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (long) by Dave
- Cline@uunet.UU.NET
- >> This is about as trivial as it gets: Complaining because there are two
- >> GUIs and not one: Open Look and Motif.
- >
- >No, this is a very significant problem for applications, though it isn't
- >much of a problem for end-users. It basically doubles the amount of work
- >and cost it takes to develop and maintain an application's user interface.
-
- That's a good point, I guess. But the same thing holds: there are very
- few differences between Open Look and Motif applications, and while it
- may not look quite as pretty, I don't think the users will care a whole
- lot if some of their programs are Motif and some are Open Look.
-
- Two other things... The ease of use of OS/2 and Windows NT isn't that
- obvious to me. Today at a computer fair I asked an IBM rep how to open
- multiple OS/2 command lines. After showing me what looked to be a fairly
- complex process, he told me (in kinder terms) that I should have gone
- through the tutorial. Now, personally, I thought one of the appeals of
- OS/2 was that you didn't HAVE to read the manual.
-
- NT looks to me like it suffers from all that plague Windows, PLUS it
- has the much feared login prompt. The much complained about Program
- manager/file manager dichotomy seems to still be there. I dunno, if
- "average users" are truly the driving force, NT doesn't seem to offer
- the "average user" much of anything over Windows, and so no one will
- move to NT.
-
-
- Nick
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