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- From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
- Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
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- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:54:09 GMT
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- In article <0105002B.ibrvd6@digtype.airage.com> jeff@digtype.airage.com writes:
- >Sun has also put their full documentation on CD-ROM--it's called Answerbook.
- >It includes Postscript versions of all of the standard man pages,
- >plus the full paper documentation set (normally 8 or so volumes weighing
- >in at 80 or so pounds!). I also have hardware and configuration manuals
- >for most of the desktop systems. It completely fills a 600 meg CD.
-
- First, I completely agree with Jeff's enthusiasm for this system. It is good
- and probably is the wave of the future. I do have one gripe, however.
- As I have said, in other postings, Postscript is a half-finished job until
- somebody comes up with a method for converting it back into standard ASCII
- text like the lines you are reading, now. The windows-oriented approach is
- totally useless for those of us who are blind and use speech synthesizers.
- We were able to cobble together a small C program to strip out all that
- Postscript language and display a completely deformatted stream of data.
- It beats nothing, though not by much. I would love to help fix this problem,
- but I need to find a document explaining Postscript in electronic form so
- I can read it and figure out how to tackle this beast.
-
- >
- >All of these things are on-line, fully-indexed, cross-referenced and
- >hypertext-linked, and just a command away. Just today, I was looking
- >for info on how the sticky bit affects directories. I just fired up
- >the searcher and typed in 'sticky'. I had 3 hits, and found my answer
- >in just a couple of seconds. I could have never done this with paper
- >documentation.
-
- To do that with the system I use, you look through the directory until
- you find a likely-looking title and then strip the Postscript from it.
- Next, use "less's" text finding capability to look for the string. It works,
- but it is as slow as molasses in January, and you run the risk of missing
- important information which might be in files whose names don't betray
- the knowledge, within.
- As I have also said, before, I realize that not all formatting effects
- could be duplicated on non-graphical terminals, but a good Postscript-to-ASCII
- converter would simply do what it could with what it had. Then, we could
- all use the hypertext capabilities for indexing.
-
- >
- >Unix is a bit cryptic, and the sheer volume of documentation is overwhelming
- >at times. Having it all shrunk down to a fully indexed CD where I
- >have a prayer of finding what I want makes things a lot easier!
- >
- >CD-ROMs could be the saviour of UNIX.....
-
- If handled right, they could be the answer to all kinds of problems. So far,
- for anybody needing non-standard output, they are just another headache.
-
- This doesn't mean I disagree with anything said, here, or I hate Windows
- or anything more than that we need to look long and hard at the slash-and-burn
- approach which seems to have taken over the data I/O business. We are creating
- a Tower of Babyl which seems to be creating more and more specialized forms
- of I/O rather than trying to create universal formats that have unlimited
- utility.
- There are software solutions which are beginning to make Window formats
- available to the blind, but my problem is that in order to use the "AnswerBook"
- or any similarly formatted output, any user must have a graphics terminal
- such as another Sun work station to access the data. This is nice if you are
- selling Suns, but quite limiting if you have a perfectly good PC/XT running
- "Kermit" at home.
-
- Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
- O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group
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