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- From: mokros@chekov.UU.NET (Ivo Mokros)
- Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (long)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.001841.9091@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
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- References: <1992Nov6.114310.6436@global.hacktic.nl> <BxD53L.37n@unix.amherst.edu> <BxG6q9.LLI@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 00:18:41 GMT
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- In article <BxG6q9.LLI@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod) writes:
-
- [ stuff deleted ]
- >>
- >>Support and handholding comes free on the net. I'm seeing a number of
- >>places in trade magazines that offer support for Linux and BSD:
- >>installation, troubleshooting, consulting, and so on. So you get the
- >>OS for free and pay a small fee for support. Competitive, at least.
- >
- >Huh? What net? I've never heard of the net? I just want to get a computer
- >to run my carpentry business on, and this guy tells me to get a modem
- >and a TCP/IP connection? Huh? Whadda ya mean?
- >
- History repeats itself. I remember people aguing that nobody could possibly need
- more than 64K in their computers. When computers were first invented, noone could
- conceive of any application other than calculating trajectories of projectiles.
- Only a few years ago, who would have thought that a carpentry business would need
- a computer at all?
-
- Networking is the next logical step in computing, and the capenter who informs
- him/herself on the net (in trades.carpentry.how.to.make.more.money perhaps?)
- will be further ahead than the status quo oriented competion.
-
- >And where am I supposed to GET this free OS with no access to the net in
- >the first place? And how much is this "small fee" for support? $300?
- >$400? $500? and how long is it for?
- >
- >Users get a "nice warm feeling" from BUYING things in a store.
-
- Because of bullying by large corporations like MicroSoft who can't stand the
- fact that someone would write software without trying to become rich doing it.
- If your friends still want that "warm fuzzy", they can send money to the author,
- or just throw it in the river if they want.
-
- >
- >I dont' know how many times I've told people, "Yes, Telix/Telemate/4dos/pkzip
- >is shareware, but it's actually GOOD." and they look at me with an "Who are
- >you kidding" look. If nobody makes a profit from it, nobody has to improve
- >it. Worse, if nobody's survival depends on it, it never has to be upgraded.
-
- These people are wrong. There are gigabytes of free software on the net, and
- the users update and improve the code all the time.
-
- My $0.02:
-
- Unix if firmly entrenched in the technical and large database markets. There is NO
- WAY that Windows NT or OS/2 can make any inroads into this market. According to the
- December 91 issue of UNIX WORLD, the top 5 Unix hardware vendors (Sun, HP, IBM, DEC, AT&T)
- sold 11.79 billion dollars worth of Unix systems. This is not a dead segment of the
- computing market. The company for which I work has over 9000 unix workstations and servers
- installed, and growing. The same is true of other large corporations. There is no question
- that UNIX IS NOT DEAD. The question is whether it can become the OS of choice on the
- desktop. I hope that Roel Pieper (sp?) can market Unix well enough to compete with Windows NT.
- I installed SVR4 on my 486, and found the installation only marginally more difficult than
- installing DOS5 and Windows 3.1. I don't believe that NT will be any easier to install
- that Unix. If users still find this too difficult, they can buy the system preinstalled.
-
- ------------------
- Ivo Mokros
- mokros@bnr.ca
-