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- From: pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter F. Couvares)
- Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
- Message-ID: <BxDLr2.Fvy@unix.amherst.edu>
- Organization: Amherst College
- References: <Bx577E.AIy@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> <BxA67v.G3y@unix.amherst.edu> <BxD9vM.MAJ@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
- Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:33:01 GMT
- Lines: 66
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- In article <BxD9vM.MAJ@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> papresco@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
- >>>2. It should have a powerful command line.
- >>
- >> Are you really an idiot or do you just play one on Usenet?
- >
- >I'm not sure why you feel the need for personal attacks.
-
- I'm sorry, I didn't mean it to be taken too seriously, and it _was_
- a stupid thing to say without explaining exactly what you meant...
-
- >I was merely making the point that a poweful command line IS an important
- >part of a good operating system, and that whatever the "operating system of
- >the future" is, it will have one. Unix already does, it needs to keep that
- >lead.
-
- True.
-
- >>>3.It should install from floppy as well as CD.
- >>
- >> Ah, you _are_ an idiot.
- >> (Take a look at Linux.)
- >
- >NO, YOU are an idiot, if you see linux as the hope for the future.
-
- Sheesh. I never said (as the clouds part and the music starts in) that
- "Linux is the hope of mankind" or anything to that effect. I was pointing out
- that your assertion that Unix doesn't install from floppy was wrong.
-
- [I didn't bother to crrect the format of this next part]
- >Imagine if PC-Magazine (or Pcworld etc.) said: LINUX is the best OS in the entire Universe,
- >and it's got EVERYTHING you need to run...all you need is internet access to FTP it, or
- >access to a BBS (what's a BBS says most people) to download it. And then you have to
- >learn to unzip or untar it (what is unzip? What is untar?). And then you have to make
- >it. (make it? You mean write it from scratch?) If you want a nice graphical interface
- >like Windows or Os/2, you have to ftp and make that too. And even so, most of the
- >software doesn't take advantage of it. And that which does will have a nonstandard
- >interface.
-
- Are you done? Quite a tangent considering I never said or implied
- anything about Linux other than it installs from floppy, runs graphically in
- less than 8meg of memory, and costs less than $300.
-
- >> Before you try to convince people of unix's flaws, I suggest you
- >>first make sure you have a clue what you're talking about.
- >
- >[...] I've said it 100 times. We need ONE Unixish operating system that
- >does ALL of these things. Telling users: Unix is great because Nextstetp
- >is easy, and Solaris is graphical, and Linux is free will get Unix NOWHERE!!!
-
- The first good point you've made yet. It _would_ be nice to have all
- that in one OS. Since I doubt Next or Solaris are going to be free anytime
- soon, let's try to make a better GUI shell for Linux...
-
- >It's like saying Microsoft products are perfect because Excel is powerful, DOS is popular
- >and Windows is easy to use. The one product has NO effect on the rest!!!
- >
- >Excel is expensive, DOS is crap and Windows (well I guess that's crap too!)
-
- I never ever said Unix was perfect. I never even said it was good or
- bad. I just chimed in to correct you on a bunch of incorrect points. You're
- lumping me with everyone you're arguing with because I disagreed with a few
- things you said (and admittedly, flamed you for it).
-
- -Peter
-
- pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares)
-