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- From: hoppie@nemesis.East.Sun.COM (Tom Hopkins)
- Newsgroups: comp.theory.cell-automata
- Subject: Re: Undecidability of configurations/progres
- Date: 14 Nov 1992 02:59:17 GMT
- Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Billerica, MA.
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- References: <1992Nov11.173807.100765@Cookie.secapl.com>
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-
- (A note to the readers: I am about to dive off into an area I have
- little or no knowledge or experience about, and if what I say sounds
- like the ravings of an idiot, there is good reason for it.)
-
- In article 100765@Cookie.secapl.com, frank@Cookie.secapl.com (Frank Adams) writes:
- >This depends on exactly how you define a GoE pattern. If I have a pattern
- >which fits in an n by m rectangle, there are two questions I can ask:
- [...question (1) deleted...]
- >(2) is there any previous pattern whose next step is the specified pattern,
- >with everything outside the rectangle being blank?
- >
- >Question (1) can be answered as described; however I believe question (2) is
- >the standard definition of a GoE. And question (2) is, in fact,
- >undecidable.
- [...Proof concerning (2) deleted...]
-
- Suppose I have a 3x3 rectangle, in which I have placed a diamond. I
- can tell you, with certainty, that there is a pattern with everything
- outside the 3x3 rectangle blank for which the diamond is the next
- step. Thus for a specific configuration, of a certain size, question
- (2) is decidable.
-
- Have I missed the point of this line of discussion entirely, or is
- there some size limit below which the halting problem is solvable?
-
- Tom Hopkins <hoppie@turbo.east.sun.com>
- (I reiterate: I could be saying something wholly idiotic. If this is
- so, please explain to me that this is so.)
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