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- From: neubert@cuphub.cup.edu
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
- Subject: Re: Has Sun set its hopes too high?new
- Message-ID: <1992Nov5.174045.95@cuphub.cup.edu>
- Date: 5 Nov 92 22:40:45 GMT
- References: <1cp499INN150@spatula.csv.warwick.ac.uk> <lf0flcINNnqa@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <1992Oct30.161740.12843@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>
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- In article <1992Oct30.161740.12843@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>, phil@stupid.cgrg.ohio-state.EDU (Phil Ritzenthaler) writes:
- > In article <lf0flcINNnqa@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, marc@porsche944.Eng.Sun.COM (Marc) writes:
- > |> DISCLAIMER: The following opinions are my own and not that of Sun Microsystems.
- > |>
- > |> >We had some new Suns delivered with UK Type 5 keyboards.
- > |> >We got them changed for Unix Type 5s,
- > |> >but this was the first time we'd ever
- > |> >been delivered any "Countryfied" keyboards.
- > |> >Why the change?
- > |>
- > |> As I had said before in an earlier message, because our customers
- > |> asked for them. Like any large company, we have marketing serveys and
- > |> it seems obvious from the changes that people desire IBM PC/AT
- > |> type layouts more than UNIX. Surprised? I'am not. Sun sells to alot
- > |> of different markets, UNIX hacks only make up a small precentage. I
- > |> suggest you blame the PC and it's influance for this problem.
- > |>
- > |> >Is this happening elsewhere in the world?
- > |>
- > |> Yep.
- > |>
- > |> > "Ban UK keyboards - they damage your hands"
- > |>
- > |> Thats your choice. Why not let others deside for themselves by trying it first.
- >
- > I think the problem is that Sun never told anyone about this "small" change
- > they decided on! Sun *never* informed me that there was a choice when we ordered
- > an upgrade from an SS2 . . . just like then never told me (and apparently many
- > others) that AUI is no longer the network standard, but 10baseT!!!
- >
- > I'm STILL trying to get this order straight before it's shipped out to us!
- > (ordered in August for a November ship date!)
- >
- > Just where the hell they got THAT idea I don't know . . . probably their
- > 'marketing surveys' again! . . . Who the HELL did they talk to??? It sure
- > wasn't users of Unix based machines!
- >
- > I don't think the hopes are to high, but Sun seems to be getting the IBM
- > mentality that we can do what we want and you can't stop us! Just look at
- > the attitude on the Sun rep with his answer to the gentleman from the UK!
- > Arrogant . . .
- >
- Isn't it wonderful the way the net allows the worst to come out. Talk
- about arrogant! Phil, *you* do not speak for all of us! And, that's
- what "survey" means...they check with a (hopefully representative)
- cross-section of users and prospective users. Because you personally
- were not chosen gives you no justification for your tone. Sun gave
- me the user a choice...I like that.
-
- John Neubert
-
- > --
- > Phil Ritzenthaler Advanced Computing Center for the Arts & Design (ACCAD)
- > Systems Administrator The Ohio State University
- > UUCP: ...!{pyramid,killer}!cgrg.ohio-state.edu!phil
- > (614) 292-3416 INTERNET: phil@cgrg.ohio-state.edu
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