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- From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
- Subject: Re: Does IRIX support "secure" nfs?
- Message-ID: <s5s4fr0@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>
- Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA
- References: <34002@adm.brl.mil>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:12:46 GMT
- Lines: 46
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- In article <34002@adm.brl.mil>, c60244@ccfiris.aedc (Kenny McDonald) writes:
- > Keystrokes of Kenny McDonald, in response to Vernon Schryver:
- > >
- > >In article <1992Nov5.032429.2196@igor.tamri.com>, lim@igor.tamri.com (Bill Lim) writes:
- > >> I haven't seen anything in my system manuals about any kind of
- > >> secure nfs. I have used SUN's secure nfs option and am wondering
- > >> if it or a functional equivalent exists for IRIX?
- > >>
- > >> SUN's secure nfs can prevent a user with root permissions on his/her own
- > >> workstation to "su" to another user and view or change that user's
- > >> files, via nfs, unless the file permisssions are set r/w for others.
- > >
- > >
- > >I thought all NFS servers by default mapped UID 0 to "nobody", usually
- > >UID=-1 or something similarly bogus. The original SUN reference source
- > >did. So have all SGI NFS products.
- > >
- >
- > This doesn't keep someone with root privs from su'ing to another user in
- > order to look at any NFS files belonging to that user. I have heard that
- > there is a version of NFS that will not use the effective UID for file
- > access; thus handling this type of situation. Has anyone else heard of this?
-
-
- Changing the client to always use the real instead of effective UID
- would not affect the security problem. Anyone who can `su` to root and
- then `su` to a target user can instead create a user of any desired UID
- and log in as that user. Changing the NFS client to always use the
- real UID would break SUID programs.
-
- SGI does support the "host access list" feature in medium modern NFS
- implemenations, where the NFS server limits access to members of a list
- of hosts.
-
- There is, as I wrote at first, a Kerberized version of NFS available
- from some universities. I do not think SGI supports it, and I don't
- recall hearing that it had been ported to IRIX by those universities.
-
- There is also a more secure version of NFS and NIS that Sun proposed,
- and I think shipped about 3 years ago. My understanding is that its
- cryptographic security was not found impressive by those who understand
- such things, and so it's authorization and authentication facilities
- have not been very popular.
-
-
- Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
-