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- From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
- Subject: Re: New SUN's, Bad news for NeXT?
- Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:49:38 GMT
- Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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- References: <MS-C.721596652.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
- Reply-To: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
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- In article <MS-C.721596652.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
- mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
- > NeXT made a step in the right direction with NeXTSTEP/486, but IMHO going
- > after the NT juggernaut is more for public relations than for profitability.
- > NeXTSTEP/486 is simply too expensive and the market perception of NeXT as a
- > company compared to Microsoft does not support a serious competition.
-
- You're not paying attention. NeXT doesn't have to destroy MicroSoft, only
- capture 10% of the market to be wildy succesfull. Anyone who does a lot of
- Windows programming is eager for an alternative. Most of NeXT's big corporate
- sales in the last couple of months has been running (successfully) against
- Microsoft, so it can be done. MIS managers take NeXT seriously, even if
- Microsoft itself does not.
-
- NeXT is also looking at its options: dropping the price of NS '486,
- disregarding future hardware sales, etc. They aren't blind to the obstacles.
- NeXT's corporate users and developers are getting better at beating NeXT over
- the head about htat.
-
- > NeXT has still not done anything about the ``you can't run anything other
- than
- > NeXTSTEP on a NeXT computer'' problem. Screams of ``why would you want to do
- > this'' aside, the fact is that NeXT withholds programming documentation about
- > its hardware. Porting or developing an alterate operating system to NeXT
- > hardware is not feasible.
-
- So who cares? If you need to run DOS/Windows, buy NS '486. If you need to run
- X, buy Co-Xist. Otherwise, if you really need another OS, buy it from the
- vendor. NeXT doesn't feel a need to sell its hardware. They're perfectly
- happy selling thousands of copies of NeXTSTEP '486 instead.
-
- > I hope NeXT sees the light. NeXT is behaving a lot better than they were two
- > years ago, but there's still a long way to go. Somehow, going up again SUN
- > a vendor which is justifiably hated by lots of people -- doesn't inspire much
- > confidence.
- Huh? Why does competing (and winning) against SUN (the largest workstation
- vendor) not inspire confidence? And you seem to have already conscluded that
- NS '486 won't sell against Windows NT et al, despite much evidence to the
- contrary. Would going up against Microsoft inspire your confidence? What do
- you want, anyway? (not sarcastic, just confused).
-
- NeXT knows their future is in software - our local SE doesn't really care about
- selling black hardware. They have realistic plans for how much they want to
- eat out of Microsofts market share, and they are seriously considering what
- they need to do (dropping prices, selling '486 boxes, bundling DOS/Windows
- support) to achieve that.
-
- What exactly more do you want? Adding other hardware ports is real nice, and
- some of NeXT customers may get together to underwrite a SPARC port. But if you
- want a large base, '486+Pentium is the way to go, and NeXT is doing it. They
- already connect to just about anything larger than an HP calculator. They
- sell more machines (though probably with a smaller profit margins) than SGI,
- and even more desktop units than IBM. They have an excellent chance of getting
- sales comparable to Windows NT.
-
- Yes, NeXT will probably lose many sales to people looking for cheap Unix boxes
- (although something interesting may happen in the next month or so regarding
- that). But that's small potatoes compared to what NeXT is really after. Who
- cares if they lose a battle if they win the war? NeXT has the right bait, and
- corporate America is biting.
-
- - Ernie "NeXT Purity" Prabhakar
-
- --
- Ernest N. Prabhakar Caltech High Energy Physics
- Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
- CaJUN President NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu
- "...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 4:5b
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