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- From: vreeburg@fys.ruu.nl (Jurriaan Vreeburg)
- Subject: The living Nightmare
- Message-ID: <1992Nov9.085507.19406@fys.ruu.nl>
- Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
- References: <BxB0wE.5Hn@netnews.jhuapl.edu> <1992Nov06.205208.6520@news.mentorg.com> <1992Nov07.203245.9837@edsi.plexus.COM>
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:55:07 GMT
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- In <1992Nov07.203245.9837@edsi.plexus.COM> chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:
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- >gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:
-
- >:)The current plan is to support V7 on SR10.4 in Q193. Preliminary testing
- >:)has been largely successful.
-
- >[ This article is not meant to be a "Mentor Bashing", just an ]
- >[ expression of my opinion towards the transition process from v7.0 ]
- >[ to v8.0 where the operation system is involved on Domain/OS machines.]
-
- >This has been a major gripe at our site and we have let several people
- >at MGC (sales and support) know about it.
-
- >On the one hand you are asking everyone to transition, thus we bring up
- >8.1 and find that it has some "shortcomings". Our site may be a bit
- >unique in that we use nearly all Mentor tools (except IC.) There is no
- >official LMS (Library Management System), the analog tools were on a
- >supplemental release, and we still don't have things like GenRad
- >netlisters. An incomplete release once again.
-
- >Now we find out that things like LMS will be available in 8.2, however
- >to transition to 8.2 (due out Nov-Dec time frame from what I hear) it is
- >required that the node be running 10.4.
-
- >Thus the catch! Once you've made the leap to 8.2/10.4 you cannot run
- >7.0 until it is released for 10.4. I'm sorry, but this is supposed to
- >be a "transition" and not a "quantum leap." We'll still need to run our
- >7.0 tools until we have successfully installed 8.2, tested the
- >robustness of the tools, put a pilot project through, and given two
- >thumbs up.
-
- >We are a site of approximately 35 nodes. We cannot afford to cut out
- >one board station, one idea station, etc. and dedicate them to the task
- >of getting 8.2 up and running and then wait for 7.0 to come out before
- >we can use them again on existing designs.
-
- >As the System Administrator it is my task to make sure that the
- >Engineers can carry out their work as seemlessly as possible. This
- >latest announcement about 10.4 is going to make my next few months a
- >living nightmare with respect to the Engineers and their work.
-
- >Once again we are made to wait...
-
- Hurray for Chuck.
-
- Anyone at mentorg.com reading? Looking forward to your reaction.
-
- --
- Jurriaan Vreeburg email: vreeburg@fys.ruu.nl
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