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- From: Mike Wiese <mikew@apple.com>
- Subject: Re: Hook a 16" SVA to Powerbook, Duodock or Quadra??
- Sender: news@gallant.apple.com
- Message-ID: <1992Nov9.043207.9661@gallant.apple.com>
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- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:32:07 GMT
- X-Xxdate: Sun, 8 Nov 92 04:33:53 GMT
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- References: <D2150035.i3nf12@outpost.SF-Bay.org>
- Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
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- In article <D2150035.i3nf12@outpost.SF-Bay.org> Michael Peirce,
- peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org writes:
- >In article <1992Nov6.205714.8682@ac.dal.ca> (comp.sys.mac.hardware),
- >arun@ac.dal.ca writes:
- >> Is it possible to hook up a SVGA 16 inch monitor ie Sony 16 inch or
- any other
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
- >> brand to the Quadra or the new DuoDock or the Powerbook 160/180 and
- get the
- >> 832X624 output as you would get from a Apple 16inch Display. Has
- anyone had
- >> any experience with this..
- >
- >I have a Sony CPD-1604S 16" monitor hooked up to my Q900. I *think*
- >this is a SVGA monitor, though frankly I don't really know since its
- >not important to me so I never asked. All that matters is that it works
- >great with my Q900.
-
- If you don't know, don't post. Let's keep the information quality high.
-
- Most monitors are designed to work at one (or a few) vertical and
- horizontal
- scan frequencies. The vertical frequency is how often the whole screen
- is redrawn by the electron gun, the horizontal is the rate lines of
- the picture are scanned.
-
- For example, the Apple 16" RGB monitor is 832 pixels x 624 lines, with
- 75 Hz vertical refresh. Multiply 75 by 624 and you get about 48600, so
- the horizontal is at least 48.6 KHz, not counting the blanking. The actual
- horizontal frequency is 49.7 KHz.
-
- SVGA monitors do 800 x 600, at 56 Hz (can you say flicker?).
- 600 times 56 is 33600, including blanking the actual rate is 35.16 KHz.
-
- As you can see 49.7 KHz is a lot higher that 35.16 KHz, so any random
- SVGA monitor is not going to work. One reason SVGA is cheaper is the
- lower frequency parts are less expensive. Same goes for VGA vs the
- Apple 13"/14" - the Apple monitor has a higher refresh rate.
-
- To help us out of this mess of zillions of different video modes,
- monitors that can deal with a range of horizontal and vertical scan
- rates were invented, like the Sony multican and NEC multisync. They
- do their best to display whatever video signal you feed into them,
- within limits.
-
- ==> The Sony 1304 HG (13") can handle up to 50 KHz horizontal, so it can
- display Apple 640 x 480, and Apple 16" 832 x 624 video. The Sony 1604S
- (16")
- can also display both modes.
-
- The LOWER limit on the Sony's is around 30 KHz, so you can't run the 15.7
- KHz
- signal from your VCR into them (even if you converted it to RGB). But
- they do
- support the various VGA and SVGA modes.
-
- Apple has also seen the light and realized some people would be willing
- to accept lower quality video to save $$$. So starting with the LC, Macs
- with built in video support VGA. The Quadras, PowerBook 160, and 180
- also support SVGA. Note that since IBM didn't establish SVGA as a
- standard, there is more than one type of SVGA, so your mileage may vary.
-
- One cool thing about Macs is they automatically adjust to the type of
- monitor that is connected. For info about this, there's a new Tech note
- titled "Sense Lines" that explains all about it. If you need to build
- an adapter to use a non Apple monitor, check it out.
-
- mike wiese
-