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- From: simsh@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Chewbacca)
- Subject: Re: Theory on IIsi upgrade failure
- Message-ID: <!+l10dd@rpi.edu>
- Keywords: IIsi, 25mhz, upgrade
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- References: <1992Nov6.060708.5264@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <1992Nov6.065153.23335@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1992Nov7.010016.13015@seas.gwu.edu>
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- Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:22:55 GMT
- Lines: 56
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- jens@seas.gwu.edu (Jens Johansen) writes:
-
- >In article <1992Nov6.065153.23335@leland.Stanford.EDU> thorn@leland.Stanford.EDU (Shannon Lee Thornburg) writes:
- >>In article <1992Nov6.060708.5264@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wrast@nyx.cs.du.edu
- >> (Winston MacKenzie Rast) writes:
- >>>...I have an opinion on why some IIsi's
- >>>might be failing...
- >>>...to me it would seem that if your IIsi did NOT have 80ns or faster simms
- >>>installed in it, the upgrade would not work.
- >>
- >>
- >>Nice try, but it was the first thing I thought of also. I tried two sets of
- >>SIMMs in my IIsi after the upgrade: the original 512kB SIMMs that are clearly
- >>labeled '80ns' on the back, and a set of 4MB SIMMs which I guess from the
- >>numbers on the chips are also 80ns.
- >>
- >>The upgrade failed to work with either set of SIMMs. In fact, with the
- >>original Apple 80ns SIMMs the problems were much worse.
- >>
- >>-- Shannon Thornburg
- >>
-
- >Ah yes, but remember that there are RAM chips soddered onto the motherboard
- >of a IIsi. I don't really know a lot about these things, but are they rated
- >for a particular speed? Could it be possible that early IIsi's have 100ns
- >chips--or at least slower chips than later ones, and that this could be
- >causing the failure, while later IIsi's had faster chips and work?
-
- >I hope I'm not talking crap here, but I'm sure you all will let me know
- >if I am. Anyhow, I wanted to toss this one out as a theory that I personally
- >hope will be discredited, mine being a fairly early IIsi...
-
- Bingo! My si turned a year old the end of September (Happy Birthday!) so is
- fairly new. I was stunned the first time I looked inside and saw fancy
- 4MBit SIMMs sitting there, rather than just some plain old 8 chip cards, and
- they are 80ns. Not only that, but the RAM soldered on the motherboard also
- has an 80ns designation on it. Really amazing, but I think it could be that
- by that point, 80ns memory was so cheap it wasn't worth it for Apple to even
- bother with 100ns anymore, so they just threw in the 80ns cards. Thanks, Apple!
- Unfortunately though, this means you may not be able to get the upgrade to
- work, if your si is too old.
-
- >A question to those of you who have done the upgrade:
-
- >I have a Fax/Modem/Voice mail system running on my IIsi so it stays on
- >virtually all the time. Is it inadvisable for my to run my IIsi at 25MHz
- >on a 24 hour a day basis given the power/heat concerns some participants
- >in this discussion have had?
-
- Heat sink, heat sink, heat sink!
-
- Good luck!
- --
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- Hillel Sims e-mail: simsh@rpi.edu
- >:-) The Smiling Vulcan Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
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