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- Info-Mac Digest Thu, 12 Nov 92 Volume 10 : Issue 270
-
- Today's Topics:
-
- [*] 514 lines of new files, fonts, and things at mac.archive (11/10/92)
- [*] Bear.gif
- [*] bolo-map-editor-051.hqx
- [*] Bongo Bob-301.sea
- [*] Chassis 4.3.1 retransmit 01 of 10
- [*] flashwrite-2-11.hqx
- [*] gretzky-demo.cpt.hqx
- [*] ircle 1.1.4 sources
- [*] MacHack '93 Call for Papers
- [*] Programming the Mac in BASIC
- [*] Re: Rites Of Passage 2.1 HyperCard Stack
- [*] resubmission
- [*] SciCalc v1.2
- [*] Submission: /info-mac/source/c/RTrace-1.0-src.cpt.hqx
- [*] Submission for /info-mac/app/RTrace-1.0-app.cpt.hqx
- [*] Submission for /info-mac/source/c/RTrace-1.0-scenes.cpt.hqx
- [*] TidBITS#151/09-Nov-92
- [*] UPLOADING suntar1.3.2src.cpt.hqx
- [*] Vendor Email 1.4
- (?) Two Unrelated Questions...
- 6800 Cross Assembler (A)
- 7.1 & After Dark
- 7.1 & Norton Disk Doctor 2.0
- Adobe 1.0 Postscript (Q)
- AD vs Norton Filesaver: replies
- Alternative to File Sharing
- Apple File Exchange
- Apple Talk Remote BAUD rate
- BBEdit & SpaceSaver (R)
- Boom sounds, please
- Calendar Program
- Calendar programs ( R)
- Can't delete Word files (was Can't delete folders) (A)
- clip art pictures and GIF...
- comp.binaries.mac archive
- Creating Quicktime Movies using PD S/W
- DeskWriter problem
- Disk Drive Troubles
- Equation Graph and Quadra Sound
- FileMaker format for bibliophiles?
- Flickering monitor
- Font with Japanese diacritical marks
- Ftp'ing large files
- Getting a list of files on a server grouped by owner
- global file deletion
- HD power/supply
- How to clean a Mac (A)
- HyperQual: assistance needed
- Info-Mac Digest V10 #266 (2 msgs)
- Info-Mac Digest V10 #269
- It's a Girl!
- japanese language user group
- Location of *Macintosh Name
- Locked Partition or Locked Folder on HD20
- MacIIsi and 17mb - problems
- Macintosh Rumors - Any Info?
- Mac Minesweeper
- MacMoney (2 msgs)
- MacMoney, Anyone? (A)
- MacOberon (A)
- Mac Secret Trick list (A)
- MacTCP mystery
- Mail Order
- Micron--price of SIMMs
- Mount Volumes Before Finder Loads (A)
- Neurobiology simulations (Q)
- New HP IV LAser Printer (C)
- New ZBASIC? (A) (2 msgs)
- NFS, SLIP, Eudora, Finder: some questions
- Non-Proportional font
- nonTrashable folders
- NOW Utilties and WYSIWYG Font Menu Problem
- Old versions of software, just the facts (C)
- pinging a kbox
- Popup menus under system 7 ? (Q)
- Portable (not powerbook) to Apple 13 inch monitor
- Postscript previewer?
- PostSript to bitmap utility?
- Powerbook 180 & accessories...
- PowerBook Modem Commands
- Powerbook Screen and Warranty Problems (Q)
- Prometheus "Home Office" Fax/Data Modem (Q)
- Quadra 32 bit vid Scrambled
- Quadra Variable Speed Overdrive (C)
- rebuilding desktop loses icons?
- Recording to File on PB170
- Restrictions on number of connected fileservers
- Screen shrinkage on the Classic/Classic II
- Selling older software versions - more comments
- Setting up filesharing between System 7.1.1 hosts
- Shut Down
- Speed of Appletalk Remote Access
- Switching between windows without using mouse (A)
- Technical Suggestions for Apple
- the 7.1 fonts folder
- TimeKeeper
- Updaters for SpeedyFinder7
- use special gamma in built-in video (A)
- where is speedy-finder? (A)
- Windows for MacIntosh
- windows on mac (c)
- Wine stack--please reupload (R)
- Word 5.0a unexpected quitting
- X-Ray crystal structures (3d rendering)
- X for the Mac
-
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- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:04:10 -0500
- From: mac-recent-request@mac.archive.umich.edu
- Subject: [*] 514 lines of new files, fonts, and things at mac.archive
- (11/10/92)
-
- Hello!
-
- Here is a list of new files added by Jon Brecher (brecher@husc.harvard.edu)
- to mac.archive in the past week or so (the last section is actually a few
- weeks old...). One of our two ftp machines is being a little bit flakey
- at the moment so if you're having difficulty getting into mac.archive,
- use the ftp machine "carpediem.ccs.itd.umich.edu". Also, if you have
- AFS access in any way, remember that you can (and should) bypass ftp'ing
- altogether by just "cd"'ing into the mac.archive directories. They're
- located at "/afs/umich.edu/group/itd/archive/mac".
-
- Highlights in this list include a couple pages listing new fonts,
- the new version of System 7 Pack (which allows you to enhance the 7.1 Finder
- to speed up file copying and renaming, among other things) and some
- Appletalk Remote Access scripts (we'll be moving these to a new "ara"
- directory within the "util/comm" hierarchy in a few days).
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/report/umich-new-stuff.txt; 18K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:21:36 -0500 (EST)
- From: Byron C Mayes <byronc@ravel.udel.edu>
- Subject: [*] Bear.gif
-
- This is a .GIF file showing the location of "greater" Bear, Delaware, the
- place where I currently live. I moved here because of the name: the .GIF
- was a perk!
-
- It's GIF87a, so any current viewer should be able to deal with it.
- Size/depth is 640 X 480 (I also have a StartUpScreen version) X 16 colors
- (so it dithers pretty well to black & white if need be).
-
- Byron C. Mayes
- University of Delaware
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/art/gif/bear-delaware.hqx; 62K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 21:14:48 -0500
- From: Tom Barrett <barrett@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu>
- Subject: [*] bolo-map-editor-051.hqx
-
- Bolo Map Editor 0.51
- 9 Nov 92
-
- (replaces file sent yesterday)
-
- This is an application to edit maps for Bolo 0.95.
-
- What does it do:
- * reads maps from Bolo APPL's, ResEdit files, or BMAP files, and saves
- to either BMAP files or directly into the Bolo APPL (ResEdit not
- needed to change maps)
- * edits maps
- * prints maps.
-
- What doesn't it do (yet, anyway):
- * selection box tool not yet written
- * variable map size (must stick w/ 104x52)
- * color
- * undo
- * any error checking, especially with files
- * various other mac-interface tricks (if you drag to the edge of the
- window with the rectangle tool, the window doesn't scroll, for
- example).
-
- The map must be stored in resource BMAP # 128 of the APPL, ResEdit
- file, or BMAP file. All of the normal warnings apply (use at your
- own]
- risk, work only on a copy, etc).
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/game/bolo-map-editor-051.hqx; 36K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 22:48:36 EST
- From: Roby Sherman <rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu>
- Subject: [*] Bongo Bob-301.sea
-
- What!? ANOTHER update ALREADY!? Yes, well, what can I say... I've been
- keeping busy... <grin>
-
- --- About Bongo Bob v3.0.1 ---
-
- Bongo Bob is a system extension (INIT) that will display a wacky, obnoxious,
- or
- meaningful saying when your Macintosh starts up.
-
- --- Changes from previous version ---
-
- 3.0.1 - Added back the popular REPEAT function. See details below.
-
- 3.0.1 - Bongo Bob's fortune picker is now more rAnDoM!
-
- 3.0.1 - Bongo Bob no longer loses SYNC when his fortune files are changed.
-
- 3.0.1 - Cleaned up some obvious mispellings in the various fortune files.
-
- 3.0.1 - Added another few hundred fortunes to the "general" fortune file.
-
- 3.0.1 - Added "Bongo Bob - The App" program to the archive, an
- application version of Bongo Bob.
-
- --- PhotoWare Notice ---
-
- Bongo Bob is PHOTOWARE! If you decide to keep Bongo Bob in your software
- library
- please send the author a funny, odd, strange, weird, or wild picture of
- yourself
- (Please be sure to put your name, city, and state on the back of the photo.)
- Your picture will be added to the author's "Bongo Bob Registered Owners
- Collage"
- which is on display at his apartment.
-
- --- System Requirements ---
-
- Bongo Bob system will work on any color or B & W Macintosh and requires system
- 6.0.5 or higher. NOTE: For best performance results, Bongo Bob SHOULD be used
- on
- a Mac running System 7.
-
- --- Legal Mumbo Jumbo ---
-
- Bongo Bob v3.0.1 - Copyright 1992 by Roby Sherman
-
- Bongo Bob may be freely distributed through colleagues, friends, internets,
- love interests, online services, user groups, or any non-profit
- organization.
- Unauthorized commercial distribution of this product, without prior written
- consent of the author, is STRICTLY prohibited.
-
- The programs in this archive may not be altered, removed, or distributed
- seperately from the Bongo Bob archive without prior written consent of the
- author.
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/ex/bongo-bob-301.hqx; 502K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 13:57:44 -0500
- From: cah0@gte.com (Charles Hoffman)
- Subject: [*] Chassis 4.3.1 retransmit 01 of 10
-
- The original file is a Mac folder, which was compressed
- with Stuffit, then reformatted with BinHex. The result
- was broken into 10 pieces of about 60K with the unix
- "split" command.
-
- CHASSIS
- Chassis is a sample application which you can use as the
- basis for your own simple applications on a Macintosh. It
- is written in THINK C (all source provided). It is not object
- oriented, but is highly structured. A flowchart is provided
- in MacDraw format. Chassis is helpful for small applications
- such as calculations, simple text processing, or adding a Mac
- interface to an existing program. It also is a good source
- of sample code which actually runs.
-
- Release 4.3.1
- Contains a small fix to enable running on Mac Plus, major
- changes to print routines, small fixes for cursor behavior,
- and some changes to scrolling in Help routines.
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/source/c/chassis-431.hqx; 593K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 09 Nov 1992 16:26:56 -0400 (EDT)
- From: "Me? Graduated? Nope. Not yet." <LJONES@utkvx.utk.edu>
- Subject: [*] flashwrite-2-11.hqx
-
- Sorry that I couldn't get the file to you Saturday. I just sent the file.
- Here's the article again.
-
- Word processors do a good job of managing larger works - reports, papers,
- theses. What most people need is an application or DA for handling small bits
- of information quickly and easily. Enter the aptly-named FlashWrite ][ DA, the
- shareware successer to Apple's own NotePad DA.
-
- Better than a word processor for small amounts of information:
- *launches faster, and launches with a keypress thanks to a control panel
- *doesn't require opening any files. uses pages instead
- *new pages and changes to old pages are automatically saved when you quit
- *only uses 20K, and can be used in System 6 without MultiFinder
-
- Advantages over NotePad DA:
- *unlimited number of resizable pages with up to 32,000 characters per
- page
- *can use any font or style, with point sizes from 9 to 24
- *pages can be printed, text files imported, and text exported with the
- creator code of your favorite word processor.
- *menu for switching between pages. pages are named
- *lightning-fast word count
- *word find and find again
-
- I use FlashWrite every time I turn on my Mac. I use it to keep track of
- books, movies, CDs, and software I'm interested in. One page stores the serial
- numbers for my electronics, one has ftp sitess and user names, and I use
- another
- to store interesting .sigs. For the person who wanted a monospaced text editor
- for online messaging, use FlashWrite with the font for a given page set to
- Monaco.
- FlashWrite ][ 1.1 is shareware, $15, by Andrew Welch, author of ToDo! and
- Easy Envelopes Plus. This latest release is 32 bit clean, Quadra cache
- compatible, and has Andrew's new address.
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/app/flash-write-ii-11.hqx; 98K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:58:22 -0600 (CST)
- From: chad paulson <cpaulson@mantaray.micro.umn.edu>
- Subject: [*] gretzky-demo.cpt.hqx
-
- This is the black and white version of Wayne Gretzky Hockey 1.1 Demo. You
- are limited to playing the last five minutes of the third period. You
- also are allowed play in overtime, if necessary. Most options included in
- the original game are functional in this demo.
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/demo/wayne-gretzky-hockey-11.hqx; 1169K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:53:00 MET
- From: Olaf Titz <s_titz@ira.uka.de>
- Subject: [*] ircle 1.1.4 sources
-
- [Sources for the ircle program, a mac IRC client -- Gordon]
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/source/c/ircle-114.hqx; 184K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:52:59 EST
- From: waldemar@ai.mit.edu (Waldemar Horwat)
- Subject: [*] MacHack '93 Call for Papers
-
- Call for Papers
-
- Technical Conference for Macintosh Developers '93
- June 16 - 19, 1993
- Ann Arbor, Michigan
-
-
- The MacHack '93 Proceedings Committee is soliciting papers for the eighth
- annual Technical Conference for Macintosh Developers (MacHack '93). The
- conference is a technical forum on the Macintosh computer and personal
- computing in general and includes programming, networking, operating system,
- tools, novice, business, and research tracks.
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/report/mac-hack-93.txt; 2K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:48:38 PST
- From: "Anthony E. Siegman" <siegman@sierra.stanford.edu>
- Subject: [*] Programming the Mac in BASIC
-
- Here for what it's worth is an annotated list of books and other
- references on programming the Mac in QuickBASIC and other BASICs.
- Most of these are several years or more old, but some of them could
- still be useful, especially for more novice or amateur programmers.
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/report/programming-in-basic.txt; 7K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:41:29 EST
- From: jph613@cscgpo.anu.edu.au (John P Hughes)
- Subject: [*] Re: Rites Of Passage 2.1 HyperCard Stack
-
- RITES OF PASSAGE
- A SCIENCE FICTION ROLEPLAYING MODULE ON HYPERCARD
-
- Rites of Passage is a series of HyperCard 2 stacks that comprise a systemless
- science fiction roleplaying module. The theme is a post-cyberpunk world where
- the distinction between human and machine has become muted by culture and
- centuries of Virtual and computational experimentation. The module is
- presented
- in a workshop format, one of its main aims is to explore the nature of
- being human in the 24th Century. Black Holes, possible aliens and deserted
- spacecraft as well...
-
- The two introductory stacks are large, each over 500K when decompressed.
- They together comprise 85 cards giving a fifteen minute sound, text and
- graphic introduction to the module followed by selections from the Characters
- stack. The introductory stack does NOT contain the full module: it will be
- released after convention play in early 1993. The entire series is
- postcardware and may be freely distributed.
-
- Rites of Passage requires HyperCard 2 and System 6.07 or higher. It will run
- on any Mac with the necessary memory. As it uses a large number of digitised
- sounds, a minimum of 4 Meg RAM is recommended.
-
- VERSION 2.1
-
- Versions 1.x of these stacks used MacIntalk, a voice generating utility no
- longer supported by Apple. The MacIntalk scripts caused system crashes in
- certain Mac II configurations, and they have been deleted in the current
- version.
-
- In addition, several cards have been added or clarified in the current
- version.
- The original large Introduction has been split into two stacks. Oh yeah, and
- the spelling...
-
-
- Free Information!
- Free Imagination!
-
- Cheers
- John Hughes
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/card/rites-of-passage-21.hqx; 1331K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:48:55 GMT
- From: gauthier@cict.fr (Gauthier Robert)
- Subject: [*] resubmission
-
- You might have already noticed how some people like to talk about wine.
- They can go on for hours. Using this stack will give you an idea of a
- much that person knows what he is talking about.
- Moreover, you will also be in a better position to do the same if you
- feel like it, but more importantly, you will be able to make the most of
- your wine. You will learn how to keep it, how to serve it and the best
- part is that you will enjoy drinking it.
- Don't hesitate then to wander about in this stack !!!
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/card/wine.hqx; 169K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 09 Nov 1992 21:52:33 -0500 (EST)
- From: "Steven R. Costenoble" <MATSRC@vaxc.hofstra.edu>
- Subject: [*] SciCalc v1.2
-
- Here is version 1.2 of SciCalc, a scientific calculator for the Mac.
- Features: Algebraic entry with parentheses; power and root functions;
- trig, inverse trig, and hyperbolic trig functions; logs and exponentials;
- one variable statistics. Ten memories, remembered between uses. Good
- color graphics (at least, I like them :-) ).
-
- Should work with any Mac, System 6 or 7 (possibly even earlier Systems,
- but it has not been tested). $10 shareware. Site license available.
-
- Changes from version 1.0 (version 1.1 was never released):
-
- > Added scientific notation mode and keys to choose between
- scientific and floating point notations.
-
- > Added many more keyboard equivalents. Also, there is now a way,
- using ResEdit, to change these equivalents. It's a bit of a
- hack, but it works, and a better method will be forthcoming.
-
- > The documentation is now a TeachText document, after several
- complaints about other formats.
-
- > Removed a bug that gave an error when calculating 0%. (Why would
- you want to calculate 0%? You can now.)
-
-
- Steven R. Costenoble
- matsrc@vaxc.hofstra.edu
-
-
- This file is a binhexed self-extracting Compact Pro archive.
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/app/sci-calc-12.hqx; 116K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:36:30 EST
- From: reid@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Reid Judd - Sun NC Development Center)
- Subject: [*] Submission: /info-mac/source/c/RTrace-1.0-src.cpt.hqx
-
- This is the source distribution for Mac-RTrace-1.0. It requires
- Think-C-5.0 to compile it and you can (optional) use the "Balloon Writer"
- from APDA in order to add the Balloon help to it once you've built it.
-
- About 50 scenes to use with RTrace are available in the
- file RTrace-1.0-scenes.cpt.hqx and more are available at the
- FTP site: asterix.inescn.pt [192.35.246.17] in the directory pub/RTrace.
-
-
- RTrace was written by Antonio Costa at INESC-Norte in Portugal. The
- MacIntosh version was written by Greg Ferrar at Ohio State and myself
- (Reid Judd at Illuminati).
-
- RTrace supports these capabilities:
- point lights, directional lights, spot lights with fall-off, extended
- lights, 2 ways of defining surfaces, spheres, axis-aligned
- parallelipipeds, cylinders, cones, bicubic patches, polygons,
- polygonal patches, high quality 3D text, CSG operations,
- 4x4 matrix transformations, textures, depth of field, diffuse
- distribution, stereoscopic pair creation, ...
-
- Procedural textures (with 4x4 matrix transformations) are also
- supported: checkerboard, color blotches, marble, bump map,
- fractal-brownian-motion, wood, glossy, image mapping, waves,
- and many others.
-
- Mac-RTrace uses parametric equations (using an algebraic equation
- parser) to define animations and it outputs PICT image, PPM images,
- and (of course) QuickTime movies.
-
- Enjoy,
- -- Reid Judd
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/source/c/mac-rtrace-10.hqx; 643K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:26:02 EST
- From: reid@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Reid Judd - Sun NC Development Center)
- Subject: [*] Submission for /info-mac/app/RTrace-1.0-app.cpt.hqx
-
- This file contains the Mac-RTrace-1.0 application and complete manuals
- in Microsoft Word and TeachText format. This version of RTrace
- requires at least a Mac with a 68020/68881 FPU but it is possible
- to build a version from the source that does not have this
- restriction.
-
- Two small scene files (demo.sff and sphere.sff) are included.
-
- RTrace was written by Antonio Costa at INESC-Norte in Portugal. The
- MacIntosh version was written by Greg Ferrar at Ohio State and myself
- (Reid Judd at Illuminati).
-
- RTrace supports these capabilities:
- point lights, directional lights, spot lights with fall-off, extended
- lights, 2 ways of defining surfaces, spheres, axis-aligned
- parallelipipeds, cylinders, cones, bicubic patches, polygons,
- polygonal patches, high quality 3D text, CSG operations,
- 4x4 matrix transformations, textures, depth of field, diffuse
- distribution, stereoscopic pair creation, ...
-
- Procedural textures (with 4x4 matrix transformations) are also
- supported: checkerboard, color blotches, marble, bump map,
- fractal-brownian-motion, wood, glossy, image mapping, waves,
- and many others.
-
- Mac-RTrace uses parametric equations (using an algebraic equation
- parser) to define animations and it outputs PICT images, PPM images,
- and (of course) QuickTime movies.
-
- Enjoy,
- -- Reid Judd
-
- ILLUMINATI@AppleLink.Apple.Com
- 2617 Sweetbriar Rd.
- Durham, NC 27704
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-rtrace-10.hqx; 535K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:02:39 EST
- From: reid@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Reid Judd - Sun NC Development Center)
- Subject: [*] Submission for /info-mac/source/c/RTrace-1.0-scenes.cpt.hqx
-
- This file contains about 50 scenes for use with Mac-RTrace.
- Included in this package are: many molecular models such as DNA, Jet
- aircraft, a triceritops dinosaur, and numerous examples of textures.
- More scenes may be obtained via FTP at asterix.inescn.pt [192.35.246.17].
-
- You will need RTrace in order to create and animate these scenes.
-
- RTrace was written by Antonio Costa at INESC-Norte in Portugal. The
- MacIntosh version was written by Greg Ferrar at Ohio State and myself
- (Reid Judd at Illuminati).
-
- RTrace supports these capabilities:
- point lights, directional lights, spot lights with fall-off, extended
- lights, 2 ways of defining surfaces, spheres, axis-aligned
- parallelipipeds, cylinders, cones, bicubic patches, polygons,
- polygonal patches, high quality 3D text, CSG operations,
- 4x4 matrix transformations, textures, depth of field, diffuse
- distribution, stereoscopic pair creation, ...
-
- Procedural textures (with 4x4 matrix transformations) are also
- supported: checkerboard, color blotches, marble, bump map,
- fractal-brownian-motion, wood, glossy, image mapping, waves,
- and many others.
-
- Mac-RTrace uses parametric equations (using an algebraic equation
- parser) to define animations and it outputs PICT images, PPM images,
- and (of course) QuickTime movies.
-
- Enjoy,
- -- Reid Judd
-
- ILLUMINATI@AppleLink.Apple.Com
- 2617 Sweetbriar Rd.
- Durham, NC 27704
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-rtrace-scenes.hqx; 407K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:58:57 PDT
- From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
- Subject: [*] TidBITS#151/09-Nov-92
-
- TidBITS#151/09-Nov-92
-
- This issue overflows with a review of WriteNow 3.0, the syllabus
- for a free online course, "Navigating the Internet," and an
- alternative view of the Duo. We also crammed in some short
- announcements, including news of Disk First Aid 7.1, which fixes
- the disappearing files and folders bug, a letter about font
- clone piracy, and a warning for CPU users who have a
- just-released PowerBook. Tune in next week for all the great
- stuff that wouldn't fit!
-
- Topics:
- MailBITS/09-Nov-92
- Navigating the Internet: An Interactive Workshop
- WriteNow 3.0 Review
- Duo, An Alternative View
- Reviews/09-Nov-92
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-151.etx; 29K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 13:37:09 MET
- From: speranza@cirfid.unibo.it (Sauro Speranza)
- Subject: [*] UPLOADING suntar1.3.2src.cpt.hqx
-
- [Source cdode for sun tar application uploaded the other day -- Gordon]
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/source/c/suntar-132.hqx; 363K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:57:05 EST
- From: msimpson@loop.ausom.oz.au (Matthew Simpson)
- Subject: [*] Vendor Email 1.4
-
- Version 1.4 of the Vendor Email, BBS, FTP site and FAX list!
-
- Enclosed is a binhex4-encoded file containing a self-extracting folder with
- three files in Word 4/5, Excel 2.2, Excel 4.0 and tab-delimited text format.
- Each file contains a list of Email, BBS, FAX numbers and FTP sites for
- Macintosh vendors. Depending on your needs, feel free to delete the others:
- other than formatting they are identical!
-
- My goal with this list is to maintain an accurate and up-to-date list of those
- companies that are on the internet or an internet-reachable service. I have
- considered making a list with sales, tech support, and 1-(800) numbers, but
- since my primary interest is in maintaining a list that is usable to those of
- us who do NOT live in the U.S.A, and secondarily to promote those
- forward-thinking companies who currently use electronic services, I will limit
- myself to those companies making or selling Macintosh hardware or software
- that maintain a BBS or active Email presence.
-
- We will be adding more Australian vendor information to this list. If anyone
- out there has any information to be added to the list please let us know.
-
- I have the vendors entered alphabetically, without street addresses or
- information regarding their products. I have a partial listing of AOL
- addresses FAX numbers and FTP sites: please send me any appropriate
- information that you might have!
-
- Matthew Simpson
-
- msimpson%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au
- MACHOUSE@AppleLink.apple.com
-
- November 10th, 1992
-
- [Archived as /info-mac/report/vendor-emails.hqx; 100K]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 92 19:40:43 EST
- From: Charlie Summers <72257.140@CompuServe.COM>
- Subject: (?) Two Unrelated Questions...
-
- Folks;
-
- 1) Does anyone know of a freeware or (reasonably-priced) shareware
- application that might serve as a front-end to MCI Mail? MCI sells a package,
- but it is priced a bit steep for such a single-use product.
-
- 2) In looking over information on the upgrade to System 7.1 (please, I am
- not attempting to start another round of "How DARE they charge for it..."), I
- am struck by the "Single-Use" license. If I understand the license correctly,
- the upgrade may be installed on a single Macintosh. Between my office and my
- home, I have a Plus, two SE/30s, a PB 145, and a PB 100. Correct me if I am
- wrong, please, but does this mean if I should decide to upgrade to 7.1 I will
- have to pay $200 (less a little change)?
-
- My thanks to all of you for any replies, which should be made to either
- LOF@MCIMail or 72257.140@compuserve.com...or, of course, the digest (if others
- don't mind the spent bandwidth).
-
- Charlie Summers
-
-
- Distribution:
- Info-Mac >INTERNET:Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:52 GMT
- From: <LANKTON%COLOLASP.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: 6800 Cross Assembler (A)
-
- >I'm looking for a 6800 (yup, sixty-eight hundred) cross assembler for
- >the Macintosh. Any info greatly appreciated.
-
- I've used the Crossbow cross-assembler for several projects. It is a
- nice package with an acceptable editor and a built-in terminal emulator
- so you can load your code into an EPROM burner. It will generate code
- for a wide variety of 8-bit microprocessors, including 68xx, 1802, 8051
- family and some others. It has a handy help stack, too.
-
- from:
- Onset Computer Corporation
- 199 Main Street, P.O. Box 1030
- North Falmouth, MA 02536
- (508) 563-2267.
-
- Just a happy user etc. etc.,
- Mark Lankton (lankton@zodiac.span.nasa.gov)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:33:45 -0500
- From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <needje@msen.com>
- Subject: 7.1 & After Dark
-
- According to a note posted on Prodigy, After Dark is incompatible with the
- IIvx and the Performa 600. Berkeley Systems has issued an updater to fix
- the problem. It's available for download from AOL or contact
- Berkeley systems.
-
- Jeff Needleman <needje@msen.com>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:33:53 -0500
- From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <needje@msen.com>
- Subject: 7.1 & Norton Disk Doctor 2.0
-
- A note posted on Prodigy states that an Apple Technical Support
- representative said Norton Disk Doctor 2.0 was incompatible with System
- 7.1. The poster (David Miller aka DavidIIci@aol.com) says: "I tried
- running it 3 times, and each time got halfway through the file scan portion
- before it froze with a "Bad F-Line Instruction" error message."
-
- Just passing along what I read, in the hope of saving some frustrated 7.1
- user some aggravation. I haven't verified this problem myself since I
- haven't installed 7.1 yet.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Nov 1992 09:21:32 -0700 (MST)
- From: GERHARD@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
- Subject: Adobe 1.0 Postscript (Q)
-
- Greetings -
- I recently asked about converting AutoCAD (IBM)
- to Mac formats. Many useful replys were given.
- I am trying one, and am having a problem:
- AutoCAD will generate a Postscript file by plotting
- (to a file) using the Postscript plotter driver.
- The problem is that Mac programs (Word, Illustrator,
- Cricket Draw, Canvas) will not read the resulting file,
- even after following the directions given by
- James Connelly (3 Nov) to convert it to an EPS file.
- The first line in the AutoCAD output says it is
- an Adobe 1.0 file (no EPSF notation). Is this the problem?
- Does anyone have a suggested means of resolving this problem?
- (If not, I will simply get one of the suggested packages to
- read .DXF files). Thanks for any suggestions.
-
- Peter Gerhardstein (gerhard@ccit.arizona.edu)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:07:53 CST
- From: PULLMANN@TRINITY.EDU
- Subject: AD vs Norton Filesaver: replies
-
- Thanks to all the folks who resonded to my question about using AutoDoubler
- with Norton Filesaver. I heard from four or five people who are using the
- two together with no problems.
-
- It was pointed out to me by a couple of individuals that on a disk with
- a lot of AD activity, Filesaver's list of files to track will fill up
- with empty AD temp files instead of the important data files that you
- and I might rather it pay attention to. Therefore, even though no actual
- damage is being done by running the two together, AD is probably making
- Filesaver a lot less potentially useful.
-
- I'm still puzzled as to why the AD documentation refers to a possible
- problem in Norton which would cause AD to malfunction, rather than the
- other way around. If I get curious enough, I guess I'll call Salient and
- ask them ;). I don't know yet if I'm going to purchase AD, though; one
- person suggested buying DD instead, which made some sense as I use my
- limited (20meg) HD space for applications, system stuff and utilities,
- mostly, and keep my mutable files on floppies. DD might be a better
- choice for me.
-
- Anyway, thanks for all the responses! :)
- Pat
-
- Pat Ullmann PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 92 07:54:43 U
- From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
- Subject: Alternative to File Sharing
-
- Alternative to File Sharing Extension (C)
-
- >There is a commercial product called Nok Nok which is put
- >out by Trik, Inc.
-
- >This product gives you optional alerts (momentarily opens dialog,
- >beeps, flashing menu bar alert, etc. , as well as a log file.
- >It attempts to identify <guest> users by their Chooser name or
- >Mac name.
-
- >Oh yeah, they also allow for activation of Apple's File Sharing
- >Monitor whenever someone logs in.
-
- I have a few comments about Nok Nok. I've been using it for a few
- months now. I originally got it to monitor who was logging into my
- Mac (I share a few folders, one of which is a Public folder with
- guest login), but it didn't always give me an accurate assessment
- of this (often getting "Unknown user logging in from net/node ###/
- ###"). One feature that I find particularly appealing is that Nok
- Nok can control the amount of time users are connected to your Mac.
- You can set up values for maximum connection times for both guests
- and registered users. You can also set Nok Nok to disconnect after
- a specified period of inactivity. This is useful because of System
- 7's limit of 10 connected users using file sharing and the nasty habit
- of some users to set up their machines to autoconnect to my shared
- folders. Or sometimes, they just like to logon to the shared folders
- and stay connected for long periods of time. Nok Nok will give the
- users warnings of impending disconnection to allow them to save any
- work as necessary. Neat feature.
-
- Just mu $0.02.
-
- Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
- Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY 14853
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:54 CST
- From: <SWAECHTER%UTMEM2.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Apple File Exchange
-
- Is Apple File Exchange incompatible with 32-bit addressing?
-
- Steve Waechter
- swaechter@utmem2 (bitnet)
- swaechter@utmem2.utmem.edu (internet)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:22 EST
- From: "Jeffrey H. Getzin, (2*b)||(!(2*b))" <JGETZIN@vax.clarku.edu>
- Subject: Apple Talk Remote BAUD rate
-
- I posted a while ago without response, so I'm trying again.
-
- Does anybody know how to change the BAUD rate for Apple Talk Remote Access?
- We have a 9600 BAUD MODEM that for some reason keeps connecting at
- 2400 BAUD.
-
- Please send your reponse through email to jgetzin@vax.clarku.edu.
-
- Whoops, some line noise there. I repeat the address: jgetzin@vax.clarku.
- edu.
-
-
- Thanks for any help.
-
- Jeff
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:18:40 -0800
- From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
- Subject: BBEdit & SpaceSaver (R)
-
- >--I have selected a BBEdit file, then compressed using the MAGIC MENU.
- >--Subsequently, I open the file by double clicking, a blank doucument
- >--appears on screen. I look at the file using the finder...it shows the
- >--document as a Stuffit Deluxe Document having zero size. I haven't
- >--been able to recover the original file.
- >
- This is a known bug in StuffIt SpaceSaver 1.0.1, which has been
- fixed in the forthcoming 1.0.2. We apologize for the inconvience, and in
- the meantime you can work-around the problem by keeping at least one
- window open in BBEdit at all times.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Nov 92 07:37:00 CST
- From: "Eugene Cohen" <eugene@rover.uchicago.edu>
- Subject: Boom sounds, please
-
- If anyone reading this message has any sound effects that resembles a
- 'boom' sound effect, could you PLEASE compress and hqx it and either
- mail it to me at: "EUGENE@ROVER.BSD.UCHICAGO.EDU" or upload it to the
- archives if you prefer. It's sort of an emergency, so the sooner the better.
- Mucho thanks in advance!
-
- -Yuge
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:31:05 PST
- From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
- Subject: Calendar Program
-
- Been using Easy Alarms and it seems pretty cool. It has calendar stuff,
- alarm stuff, macro kinda stuff and it has scripting that accepts XCMDs and
- XFCNs. Haven't tried running a QuickTime movie as an alarm yet but some
- AppleTalk XFCNs worked without a problem. Pretty cool.
-
- Kee
- Nethery@parc.xerox.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 16:32:09 CST
- From: PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU
- Subject: Calendar programs ( R)
-
- >I am looking for some help in finding a good calendar and scheduling program
- >which is System 7 and 32-bit addressing compatible. Any recommendations? If
- >you'll respond directly to me, I can summarize to the net. Thanks.
- >
- >Steve Waechter
-
- Hi, Steve. If you find one, let me know!:). I can tell you that the one
- you'll probably find at most of the ftp sites, CE Software's Calendar
- Maker, works good with system 6 but, at least in my experience, has some
- problems with system 7. Methinks it's been a long time since they updated
- it. I downloaded it and played around with it, but under sys7 it broke so
- often that I decided not to keep it.
-
- Another limitation is that CalendarMaker imports only paint files. This
- may be true of all calendar programs, I don't know. I sure would like
- one that could utilize EPS artwork, but I've discussed this with the
- list before and apparently there isn't such an animal.
-
- Good luck.
-
- Pat Ullmann PULLMANN@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU or PULLMANN@TRINITY (BITNET)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:07:34 MST
- From: sharmony@nova.ta52.lanl.gov (Stephen C. Harmony)
- Subject: Can't delete Word files (was Can't delete folders) (A)
-
- In Info-Mac V10 #269 Jay Poutinen said:
-
- > RE: the person who can't delete folders until after a reboot--
- > I have noticed that after closing a file in Word 5.0a--but not quitting
- > Word--that I am unable to trash the file from the finder. I get the
- > "can't delete file, file in use" message. After quitting Word, I am able
- > to trash the file.
- >
- > I'm not sure why this happens. Could it be there is still a Word-temp
- > file that exists that is "the open file"?
-
- This is a "feature" of Word 5.0 and previous versions. I suspect Jay's
- right and Word is holding some Word Temp file open. It usually happens to
- me when I've made changes to a file and closed it without saving the
- changes. After all, why save the changes if you're just planning to trash
- the file any way?
-
- I've found that Word will release the file (i.e. it will no longer be "in
- use") if you save it after making changes, and then you can trash it.
-
- Now, if you have a file that this problem is already happening with, it is
- _not_ sufficient just to open it, save it, and close it. You must _change_
- the file after opening it, then save it and close it. After you do this
- song and dance, Word will let go of the file and not complain when you
- trash it.
-
- Steve Harmony
- Los Alamos, NM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
- From: BRYAN SMITH <BSMITH%COLGATEU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: clip art pictures and GIF...
-
- I was wondering if it is possible
- to use GIF pictures as clip art
- in such program as MS Word 5.0?
-
- Bryan Smith
- BSMITH@COLGATE.EDU
- BSMITH@COLGATEU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 17:25:53 EST
- From: Larry Wink <FDMWINK@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu>
- Subject: comp.binaries.mac archive
-
- While looking for a recent post to comp.binaries.mac, a search of archie
- revealed the following sites to be archiving comp.binaries.mac:
-
- Host isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (130.54.20.1)
- Host imag.imag.fr (129.88.32.1)
- Host ftp.waseda.ac.jp (133.9.1.32)
- Host cs.dal.ca (129.173.4.5)
- Host cnam.cnam.fr (192.33.159.6)
- Host srawgw.sra.co.jp (133.137.4.3)
- Host reseq.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (129.187.230.225)
- Host nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100)
- Host irisa.irisa.fr (131.254.254.2)
- * Host wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4)
- * Host rascal.ics.utexas.edu (128.83.138.20)
- Host akiu.gw.tohoku.ac.jp (130.34.8.9)
-
- Only two (*) are located in the USA and they are no longer actively archiving
- the newsgroup (rascal stopped about 6 months ago and wuarchive simply mirrors
- rascal and other archives).
-
- Since not all postings to comp.binaries.mac end up at sumex-aim and the
- bandwidth for international traffic is limited, I would like to know if there
- are any USA sites that are currently archiving comp.binaries.mac?
-
- If the archie search is correct, what are the chances of umich or sumex-aim
- (after the new hard drive is on-line) archiving the newsgroup?
-
- Please e-mail information to me and I will summarize for info-mac if there is
- sufficient interest.
-
- --Larry Wink
- fdmwink@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu or ljw@pro-magic.oau.org
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 NOV 92 16:51:32 GMT
- From: CMRCM%STAFFS.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
- Subject: Creating Quicktime Movies using PD S/W
-
- What's the best way to generate a Quicktime Movie from a sequence of PICT
- images, probably colour PICT's? Preferably, I'd like to be able to lay my
- hands on a free/shareware package which can just bundle the PICT's into
- a movie maybe with some control over frame speed, and maybe the ability
- to add sound.
-
- In the first instance, I need to be able to prove the advantages of
- Quicktime with the absolute minimum outlay, once I've proved my point
- I'll hunt for a good commercial product, such as Premiere, etc, but
- first I have to convince the powers that be ......
-
- I've got most of the Info-mac movies, which are great for demos, but
- I'm stumped when somebody wants to create a movie, without cutting
- and pasting current existing ones together.
-
- Any suggestions will be gratefully received and replied to ....
-
- Thanks for your help!
-
- Craig Morgan
- Staffordshire University, UK
- email: cmrcm@staffs.ac.uk
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:13:06 CST
- From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
- Subject: DeskWriter problem
-
- I've been having print-out problems with my DeskWriter, in that one of
- the lines (#4) is not appearing, leading to a blank hairline at regular
- intervals spaced down the page. I've tried changing the ink cartridge
- and priming, but the line is still missing. Does anyone know of another
- simple maintenance operation I could perform, or does the printer have
- to go in for service?
-
- Thanks in advance,
- Graeme Forbes
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 21:06:49 PST
- From: sheckler@leland.stanford.edu
- Subject: Disk Drive Troubles
-
- HELP! Here's a problem for you technical whizzes out there:
-
- A friend of mine just purchased and installed System 7.1 on his SE/30
- 5/40. Since this time, he has not been able to format either 800K or 1.4 MB
- diskettes. He gets the normal "formatting disk" and "verifying format"
- messages, but then a "re-verifying format" message comes up, followed by an
- "initialization failed message" and the disk being spit out of the drive.
-
- I'm pretty sure this is not an extension problem. The machine will not
- format diskettes even with the extensions turned off. By the way, I have
- updated the SCSI driver.
-
- I'm certain it's not the diskettes' fault--I've had no trouble formatting
- them on my SE/30 (which, incidentally, is also running 7.1)
-
- I've cleaned his drive with a head cleaning diskette and will be blowing
- it out with compressed air sometime during the next few days.
-
- Questions:
-
- 1. What other steps should I take to get the drive up and running?
- 2. Should I try re-installing System 7.1?
- 3. If this doesn't work, can anyone recommend a company in the south San
- Francisco Bay area (or anywhere in that part of California for that matter)
- that will repair the drive at a reasonable cost?
-
- Thanks for your help! Please e-mail me directly at
- sheckler@leland.stanford.edu and I will post a summary.
-
- Steve Heckler
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:42:10 GMT
- From: dbutcher@shelley.u.washington.edu (Derek Butcher)
- Subject: Equation Graph and Quadra Sound
-
- I am very impressed! Many thanks to the very helpful responders to my first
- posting on Usenet regarding Equation Graphing programs. I received many
- replies recommending some very good programs (I downloaded them all), but
- to summarize, probably the most suited to my needs was xFunctions 2.2; I
- would highly recommend it myself.
-
- Now for a new query:
-
- I have a Quadra 900 and when digitizing sound through the built in line level
- ports I get a slight static burst with each sound impulse (similar to a poorly
- tuned radio station). I have tried two different sources w/ very short high
- quality cables, and the problem disappears when playing sounds recorded
- with my Mac Plus, so it is definitely something to do with the Q900 input
- ports. (BTW, I have tried both 22 and 44khz sources in case it was a sampling
- error in the sound recording program; I have also tried multiple recording
- programs - SoundEdit Pro, MediaGrabber, and the Control Panel).
- Does anyone have any ideas?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:56:38 -0800
- From: Michael_Hayward@sfu.ca
- Subject: FileMaker format for bibliophiles?
-
- I was about to sit down and design a FileMaker database record and
- layout(s) to track my book collection with, but thought that it might have
- already been done by some other bibliophile out there.
-
- Is there anyone who has gone through this exercise that would be willing to
- share the results with me? (Or who would be willing to suggest other
- successful approaches) Thanks!
-
- ...Michael Hayward hayward@sfu.ca
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:00:54 IST
- From: "Dr. Michael Silverstein"
- <MTRMS01%TECHNION.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Flickering monitor
-
- I just noticed that my trash and hard disk icons
- tend to flicker,
- regardless of where I put them on
- the screen (13" RGB connected to a IICi).
- I have never noticed this before, although
- it may have been doing it (although I doubt
- it). At this point in time it is driving me
- el loco.
-
- My solution: just make sure I do not
- leave these things chosen on the desktop....
-
- Any comments out there??
-
- Thanks, m i k e
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:54 EST
- From: Kenny <KFREUNDLICH@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU>
- Subject: Font with Japanese diacritical marks
-
- Some folks here at Wellesley College are looking for a public domain font
- (preferably TrueType) that has the normal Roman alphabet -- but with the
- diacritical marks -- straight lines -- over the "o" and "a", etc.
-
- It wasn't obvious from the fonts stored in the sumex archive (keisen,
- yoshinogari, tokyo) whether any of those would do the trick. The few
- I tried didn't.
-
- Any ideas?
-
- Kenny Freundlich
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:07:20 IST
- From: "Dr. Michael Silverstein"
- <MTRMS01%TECHNION.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Ftp'ing large files
-
- A request, a plea, to those out there
- (or on other mac.nodes) who submit big
- humoungous files to the servers. This
- especially applies to the delicious quicktime
- movies that are being turned out...
-
- Could you segment your files into 1M or 2M
- bite size sections using whatever shareware
- segmenter is available?
-
- The reason I ask is that ftp'ing the large
- ones takes so long I have a small margin
- of success since I get errors and time outs
- along the way. If I could sequentially FTP
- bite size bits then I would have a success
- rate closer to 100% and spend less time
- retrying the ftp and cursing...
-
- A big heap
- (well, lots of little heaps)
- of thanks, m i k e
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:34:16 EST
- From: Alex.Sirota@um.cc.umich.edu
- Subject: Getting a list of files on a server grouped by owner
-
- I would like to ask anyone on the net if they know of a product or program
- that sorts files on an AppleShare 3.0 server by owner of that file?
- I would like to collate info on how much K a user is using on a server?
- Please respond to alex.sirota@umich.edu
- Thanks
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 18:44:08 PDT
- From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
- Subject: global file deletion
-
- A couple of people have written in to the list and to me
- personally suggesting that a Frontier script was overkill for
- simply deleting a bunch of files when you could just use Find
- All at once and delete them that way.
-
- This is certainly true, but remember, the whole point of such a script
- (I'm only suggesting one person write it, as long as they do it correctly)
- is that you can easily run it whenever you want without having to
- remember specifically what to type each time. In addition, it could
- loop over all mounted volumes at once, whereas you'd have to Find
- separately for each volume in the Finder (I have four volumes, so
- that would be a pain). The script would be generally more flexible
- as well, being able to delete all files of a certain type and creator
- (junk temp files that sit around), things like unattached aliases,
- possibly prefs files that had no program (although that's possibly
- a bad idea since I have prefs files for apps that I only use from
- SyQuest). The point is that such a script would be more powerful and
- flexible than just mucking about in the Finder all the time, and as
- something that could work with Frontier Runtime, it could be easily
- made available to a large number of people without requiring the overhead
- of a custom program or extension.
-
- Frontier scripts haven't quite caught on as the sort of thing that
- people write and then distribute to the world at large like extensions
- and apps, but there's no reason for that. Runtime is $25 shareware
- and can do almost everything Frontier can. I'm working on a script
- right now that will work with StuffIt Deluxe to defunk every possible
- sort of archive and store the original in a separate folder - it works
- now, but I just have to add BinHex and SEA support and I'm as always
- strapped for play time. That script is currently an item in my Finder's
- Scripts menu, but there's no reason it couldn't be an agent that runs
- every startup, or every two hours, or whatever.
-
- Perhaps the overall point is that there are many ways to accomplish
- tasks, but people might do well to think about using Frontier and
- Runtime as a method of accomplishing some of them. As a user, it's
- easy and produces fewer conflicts than loading down your machine with
- extensions and apps.
-
- And yes, we're working on reviews of Frontier and Runtime for TidBITS.
- :-)
-
- cheers ... -Adam
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:51:36 -0400 (EDT)
- From: DAVE@utkvx.utk.edu
- Subject: HD power/supply
-
- I recently upgraded my internal hard drive and I would like use the old drive
- as an external hard drive. Where do find an external box/power supply.
- Secondly, has anyone heard of an upgrade path for PB170 users to 180's.
- Thankx in advance. :)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:31:31 PST
- From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
- Subject: How to clean a Mac (A)
-
- > Can anybody recommend a good cleaner that'll restore some of the
- >attractive Apple Platinum without doing something nasty like melting
- >the plastic? :-) I've tried a few common cleaners, and they don't
- >seem to quite get the gunk out.
-
- I have sponge scrubbers at home with a green plastic scrubbing background
- on one side "no scratch" or something like that. Anyway, they seem to do a
- great job of cleaning mac cases. Even removes the "tarnish" caused by the
- plastic sitting in the sun.
-
- Kee
- nethery@parc.xerox.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:44:57 GMT
- From: tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au
- Subject: HyperQual: assistance needed
-
- Colleagues,
-
- I have recently been following a discussion about HyperQual (Mac) and
- Ethnograph (IBM compatible) software on QUALS-L : the Qualitative
- Research for the Human Sciences List. The software has several uses
- but essentially permits text from interviews to be analysed.
-
- It prompted me inquire about purchasing the software with the Computer
- Shop at Computer Centre, Curtin University of Technology. Unfortunately
- they know little about the software and are searching their sources to
- find an Australian distributor. Hence my question to the network.
-
- Is there a networker who is familiar with HyperQual or HyperResearch and;
- i. is willing to answer some of my questions,
- ii. has some experience with using the software,
- iii. has an address for an Australian distributer.
-
- Please forward suggestions to my email address.
-
- Regards,
- Steven Christensen
- Internet: tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:36:23 -0500 (EST)
- From: Zsuzsanna Bencsath-Makkai <ZSUZSI@medcor.mcgill.ca>
- Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #266
-
- How to chain a Mac SCSI removable optical disk (LaCie) to the InfoServer?
- What is needed in addition to VAX/VMS 5.5-1, the InfoServer, Pathworks for
- Mac up and running? Any help, reference, please?
-
- Zsuzsanna Bencsath-Makkai
- MEDCOR
- McGill University
- zsuzsi@medusa.mcgill.ca
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:44:33 -0500 (EST)
- From: Zsuzsanna Bencsath-Makkai <ZSUZSI@medcor.mcgill.ca>
- Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #266
-
- How to use/access the InfoServer from a networked Mac via Pathworks?
- What is needed (to be done) and how to do it?
- Vax/VMS, PAthworks for Mac, Mac System 7 with TuneUp 1.1.1.
-
- I would like to get in touch or just hear about everyone involved in
- developing
- courseware or lecture notes on the Mac. Also, anyone who is using multi-
- media development platforms. I would gladly make up an information system
- based on the responses I get to summarize what software/hardware/subject
- matter/type of development (research-commercial-just for my course) exists.
-
- Please spread the word and send me details.
-
- Zsuzsanna Bencsath-Makkai
- MEDCOR
- McGill University
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:59:14 -0500
- From: Bob Kerns <rwk@crl.dec.com>
- Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #269
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:19:04 GMT
- From: news@cs.uri.edu (News Administrator)
- The problem is not that Micron can't make a quality product
- at a fair price. The problem is that Japanese manufacturers
- routinely make a good product and sell it in foreign markets
- at a price BELOW COST.
-
- But this is only illegal if it's a foreign manufacturer!
-
- In addition, the definition of "below cost" that is applied
- is completely screwy. The cost of manufacturing something
- isn't something that you can just crank in the numbers and
- get out a single answer.
-
- Imagine the results if domestic manufacturers were held to
- the same standards! It would be illegal to have an
- introductary sale, since that's when costs are the highest,
- and your competitors would surely insist on suing you.
-
- I have no objection to anti-trust provisions; those are
- much more fairly designed and have a much more reasonable
- standard of proof, besides.
-
- You talk a lot about memory and televisions, but if you'll
- note, the Japanese never DID take advantage of their supposed
- monopoloy. The prices have kept ON falling! If things worked
- the way you assume, and if they were in fact actually losing
- money on these, they'd be bankrupt by now. Same with televisions,
- but more so. The only time prices go up is when someone tries
- to pull some protectionist stunt like this. Then we pay more,
- and then the Japanese earn more, and the US manufactures still
- don't go into the memory business.
-
- But you know what? The Japanese don't have a monopoly on chips.
- (Or TV's, either). This suit was against a *Korean* manufacturer.
- That's right. While the US has been getting out of the memory
- and TV businesses, other countries have been getting *in*.
-
- The reason for the low prices is not predatory practices, it's
- COMPETITION. Yes, competition can even drive prices temporarily
- below break-even. You either get more efficient, or you go
- out of business. The Koreans are keeping the Japanese on their
- toes, and we all benefit.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:11:52 EST
- From: Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
- Subject: It's a Girl!
-
- I thought this might be the quickest way to tell all my net.macintosh.friends
- the news. For those of you who don't know me from Adam, sorry for the wasted
- bandwidth. Last night at 2:42am Jennifer and I had a baby girl, 9lb 1oz.
- Mother and baby are healthy and well, father is exhausted :-)
-
- Cheers,
-
- Paul.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 1992 21:29:33 -0400 (EDT)
- From: TIFFERTG@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU
- Subject: japanese language user group
-
- are there any user groups out there that deal with using japanese
- on macs? now that worldscript has been formally announced, i am extremely
- interested in getting plugged in to the japanese speaking mac community and
- nippon-izing my se/30.
-
- thanks!
-
- glenn d. tiffert (tiffertg@acfcluster.du)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 92 07:52:30 U
- From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
- Subject: Location of *Macintosh Name
-
- Location of *Macintosh Name* in Sys7? (O,A)
- On Fri, 30 Oct 92 2:23:19 EST, Martin Levins <mlevins@metz.une.edu.au> asks:
-
- >I asked this question before, but didn't express myself clearly enough
- >it seems.
-
- >What I'm after is the location (or locations) of the name that is set
- >using the "Sharing Setup" control panel in sys7.
-
- >I can't seem to get rid of it when student in my labs set it to anything
- >other than null.
-
- >I've tried removing/replacing the "User & Groups Data File" to no avail.
-
- >Virtually the only thing that gets rid of it is reformatting the disc!
-
- I don't *exactly* have an answer, but I do have some observations.
-
- When I changed my user name and machine name, I noticed two files
- with new file modification dates: the "User & Groups Data File" and the
- "System" file(!). I'm not sure exactly what's being modified, but it looks
- like if you want the "Sharing Setup" name to be reset, you'll need to
- replace both these files with fresh copies.
-
- Sounds like a job for RevRdist! You could try replacing all lab Macs'
- System and U&G Data Files with clean, preconfigured files from a
- server using the RevRdist update application.
-
- OK, so maybe I *DO* have an answer!!! ;-)
-
- Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
- Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY 14853
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:34:58 -0800 (PST)
- From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
- Subject: Locked Partition or Locked Folder on HD20
-
- In a Mac Plus lab that I manage, we keep software that is only to be used
- for courses on a password protected partition on each hard drive (ethernet
- won't be installed until the Macs are upgraded). I recently got two
- hand-me-down Mac Pluses to add to the lab which both have the old Apple
- HD20 (floppy drive port) hard drive. I can't use Silver Lining to
- partition a non-SCSI disk, so I'm stuck for a way to put the course
- material on these machines in a protected fashion.
-
- Is there any program that can partition an HD20 and provide password
- protection? If not, how about a cheap folder locking program?
-
- P.S. One important criteria is that the main partition on all the lab hard
- drives (including the HD20s) are kept locked (i.e. read-only) so I can't
- use a folder locking program that requires write access to the disk unless
- this is used in conjunction with a hard partitioning program.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:10:07 CST
- From: tlh9d6e@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU
- Subject: MacIIsi and 17mb - problems
-
- A faculty member here on campus just received a MacIIsi 5/80 and 4 - 4mb
- SIMMS to be installed. This will get them up to 17mb, which is the legal
- maximum allowance for the IIsi.
-
- After installing the 4x4mb SIMMS the "About this Macintosh" recognizes all
- 17mb of memory but the "System Software" is taking up 10.x mb and leaving
- only 6.x mb available to other software. WHAT GIVES?????
-
- I took it back down to the original 4x1mb SIMMS and the "System Software"
- is taking up a little over 1mb and 3.x mb is available for other software.
-
- 32 bit addressing is ON and there is no weird inits loading.
-
- Anybody in NETLAND know what is going on??!!
-
- Any and all help appreciated.
-
- Terry L. Hartman
- Coordinator - Microcomputer Services
- University of Texas - Pan American
- TLH9D6E@panam1.panam.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:16:53 -0600
- From: Neil Eric Mickelson <nem52463@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Subject: Macintosh Rumors - Any Info?
-
- Hello everyone -
- During mid-August, MacWeek had a couple articles about the upcoming
- Apple release (it WAS upcoming, anyway) including the IIvx, new Duos, and
- new PowerBooks. In the same issue, they mentioned that Apple was working
- on a color inkjet printer and a color version of the OneScanner with color
- Ofoto software. Anybody heard anything about these? Also, what exactly is
- supposed to be released in January (I've heard about an LCIII and a couple
- of new -040 based Macs)? If you've heard anything, please pass it on.
- Thanks!!
-
- Neil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:01:57 -0500
- From: :cfoc::cfoc::mrgate::"a1::stovaljw"@cfoc
- Subject: Mac Minesweeper
-
- From: NAME: JEFFREY W. STOVALL
- FUNC: PD-TECHNICAL
- TEL: (919) 371-4863 <STOVALJW AT A1 AT CFOC>
- To: NAME: VMSMail User "Info-Mac
- <"INFO-MAC@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU"@ESDS01@CFOC@MRGATE>
-
-
- Does anyone on the Infomac net know of a Macintosh version of
- Minesweeper? My officemate has been driven to the comfort of an
- IBM compatible just to play this highly addictive game. I don't
- have direct ftp access to sumex, so I haven't been able to search
- the archives. If anyone does know of a Mac version of
- Minesweeper, please let me know. Thanks!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 17:54:31 PDT
- From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
- Subject: MacMoney
-
- In Regards to your letter <199211092203.AA22820@nwnexus.wa.com>:
- > I am now using MacMoney. Stay away from it! (I'm using version 3.5.?)
- > It crashes frequently, even though Survivor Software assured me it was
- > System 7 compatible. I've been using it for 5 years now, and ready for
- > a change. I bought Quicken, but frankly wasn't too impressed. Maybe
- > I didn't give it enough time... I've now bought M.Y.O.B. to handle
- > both personal and company finances.
-
- Really? I'm surprised since I've used MacMoney for about five years now too
- and have had almost no crashes, especially in the latest version under
- System 7.0.1. No great lessons here, just another experience...
-
- cheers ... -Adam
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:56:18 EST
- From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
- Subject: MacMoney
-
- On Mon, 9 Nov 92 15:28:35 EST you said:
- >I am now using MacMoney. Stay away from it! (I'm using version 3.5.?)
- >It crashes frequently, even though Survivor Software assured me it was
- >System 7 compatible.
-
- Odd, I've been using MacMoney 2.52.02 for over a year in 32-bit mode on
- a Quadra 700 without (knock on wood) a single crash I can attribute to
- MacMoney (I don't recall ever having crashed while using MacMoney). It
- turns out to be '040 cache compatible as well as 32-bit clean.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:08:18 cst
- From: David Bourne <david-bourne@uokhsc.edu>
- Subject: MacMoney, Anyone? (A)
-
- > I am now using MacMoney. Stay away from it! (I'm using version 3.5.?)
- > It crashes frequently, even though Survivor Software assured me it was
- > System 7 compatible. I've been using it for 5 years now, and ready for
- > a change. I bought Quicken, but frankly wasn't too impressed. Maybe
- > I didn't give it enough time... I've now bought M.Y.O.B. to handle
- > both personal and company finances.
-
- I've been using MacMoney for a couple of years and am reasonably happy with
- it. I run it on a IIci under system 7.0 tuned (1.1.1). I tried running it
- under 7.0.1 but it didn't work. I called Survivor and they suggested going
- back to 7.0. I did some time ago (months) and it has been stable ever since
- (KOW :-). I'm curious about its performance under 7.1. An earlier version
- would cause very occasional problems. (I had back-ups and had to reeenter a
- few weeks data once or twice :-(). I've used e-mail for tech support (a plus)
- and upgrades (very reasonable $5-$10). Just a satisfied user. David Bourne.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 92 13:35 +0100
- From: Eckehard Scharein <scharein@imdm.uke.uni-hamburg.dbp.de>
- Subject: MacOberon (A)
-
- Hi netters !
-
- MacOberon will always be downloadable from
- neptune.ethz.ch
- in the directory /Oberon/MacII (that may have changed)
- because the programming language Oberon has been developed
- at the ethz in switzerland (thats the swiss technical university
- for all the non-europeans) as hhave the predeessors Modula-2 and
- Pascal. The current version is 2.4.2 or something like that.
-
- Greetings
- Ulf Dittmer
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 92 07:58:44 U
- From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
- Subject: Mac Secret Trick list (A)
-
- Mac Secret Trick list (A)
- >...after changing the lables in this or other ways, how does one restore
- >the lables to their original settings without retyping them?
-
- Just copy a fresh copy of the Labels control panel from the System 7 Tidbits
- disk (it's in the Control Panels folder).
-
-
- Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
- Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY 14853
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:54 EDT
- From: Jan Richard <jrichard@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU> (Jan Richard)
- Subject: MacTCP mystery
-
- We run LocalTalk/AppleTalk connections to some of our offices, which are
- connected via a Gator Box to the backbone, over which we run TCP/IP. We
- are using MacTCP 1.1 and NCSA Telnet 2.5. On all but one of the systems
- connected in this way, a LocalTalk icon appears on the first screen of
- MacTCP so you can select the zone. On one Mac (an LC II running 7.0.1),
- however, we were not able to get the LocalTalk icon to appear in MacTCP.
- At first, we could not get NCSA Telnet to work; it said the MacTCP drivers
- were not installed. After reinstalling numerous things, including the
- system, Telnet did start working. However, we never were able to get the
- LocalTalk icon to appear in MacTCP. Does anyone know what makes that icon
- appear? I noticed when resediting that system file and my own that the
- other had fewer drivers. In particular, I don't remember seeing the .MPP,
- .ATP and .XPP drivers that are in mine. I don't know what those are, but
- they sound like some sort of protocols (.ATP = AppleTalk?). Can anyone
- suggest what we might do to get the LocalTalk icon to appear in MacTCP?
- How is it determining the correct zone? I should say that even when we
- weren't able to get Telnet to work, the zones all appeared in the Chooser
- ok, which would suggest that it wasn't a hardware problem at all. Please
- send responses to me and I will summarize if we are able to figure out what
- the problem was. Thanks.
-
- Jan Richard jrichard@haverford.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:18:47 -0600
- From: Neil Eric Mickelson <nem52463@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Subject: Mail Order
-
- Hello everyone -
- Has anyone dealt with Bottom Line Distributors lately? They've got
- a good price on the Suprafax V.32bis MacPac, and I'm wondering if they're
- (oops - their) service is any good. If you've got any comments, please pass
- them on or mail them to me at n-mickelson@uiuc.edu. I'd appreciate your
- help.
- Thanks!!
-
- Neil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 19:20:17 CST
- From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
- Subject: Micron--price of SIMMs
-
- I'm not sure infomac is the right place for debates about economic policy
- but I can't resist commenting on the unsigned posting in the recent
- digest from someone described as a "News Administrator". According
- to this individual, the recent SIMM tariff is justified because
- Japanese companies use the strategy of dumping below cost to kill
- competition and then charge what they like, and we suffer from this
- because of our "tolerant" ways.
-
- First, it was Korean, not Japanese, companies who were the target
- of the Commerce Department ruling. If you can't get the basic facts
- right, what's your economic analysis worth?
-
- Secondly, the alleged strategy will only work if there are no other
- companies in the market competing with you, or if you have price-fixing
- deals with them. A Korean is company is no more likely to be able to
- arrange price-fixing with the Japanese chip manufacturers than it is
- with the American ones, and given the small American presence in the
- market, it's only hope of gaining thro' dumping *would* be to fix prices
- with the other large producers. Dumping to get rid of Micron gets them
- precisely nowhere. Or maybe Hyundai and Samsung think they can wipe out
- the Japanese companies as well. Good luck to them.
-
- A small American company almost certainly does have higher production
- costs than say Samsung, who, because they make so many different things,
- probably can only make an intelligent guess at how much their chip
- manufacturing "really" costs them. Cost on the margin? Absolute cost?
-
- Anyway, my understanding is that current law doesn't require proof that
- the foreign company is dumping, only that a US company is "harmed"
- by the foreign company's pricing policy. If that is the case, it
- simply encourages inefficiencies that you and I will have to pay for.
- There shouldn't *be* any small companies in the 1meg SIMM business; you
- need the economies of scale.
-
- Note that I say "1 meg" SIMM business. US companies ought to be on the
- cutting edge of the most advanced chip technology, design and manufacturing.
- But it's probably not the role of the world's leading industrial power
- to dominate the low-tech commodity end of the business. And so far as
- I'm aware, the US does still dominate the high end of the chip business -
- microprocessors, niche and advanced memeory chips, and so on. And contra
- the "News Administrator", it has a perfectly decent opportunity to seize
- the high-end of the TV market as well, if high definition TV can be
- mass produced quickly enough at attractive prices. Driving up the
- prices of current TVs, devices as about as sophisticated as toasters,
- by putting tariffs on Hitachi, makes no consrtuctive contribution to
- that process, indeed only delays it. The same goes for low-end memory
- chips.
-
- Graeme Forbes
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:38:16 PST
- From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
- Subject: Mount Volumes Before Finder Loads (A)
-
- >I'm looking for a freeware init that will mount all hard drive volumes at
- >startup before Finder loads. I already tried SCSI Probe. It will not do
- >it. SuitCase II works, but it is commercial software.
-
- How embarrassing! I missed the blatantly obvious. SCSIProbe has an
- "Options" button which provides an option to "mount volumes at bootup".
- Once I checked this option all was well. Thanks to John Thoo for pointing
- me in the right direction. My apologies to all for missing something so
- simple. :-)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:56 EST
- From: RADICE@urvax.urich.edu
- Subject: Neurobiology simulations (Q)
-
- Neurobiology simulations (Q)
-
- Does anyone know of neurobiology simulations? I have a colleague
- who is setting up a Mac Lab for teaching neurosciences and
- wants to know what's available.
-
- Gary Radice
- University of Richmond
- Radice@urvax.urich.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 12:35:39 GMT
- From: deckert@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Dirk Eckert)
- Subject: New HP IV LAser Printer (C)
-
- Just recently ordered the HP 4M for $2238. That should give the answer to
- mail order prices. That is about $1000 less, than if I had bought it in
- Germany (already taking customs and transport into consideration). Some-
- one tell me where they get the outrageous prices around here....
- Dirk
- --
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:00:47 PST
- From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
- Subject: New ZBASIC? (A)
-
- >I heard somewhere that there is a new product from Zedcor that is designed
- >to replace ZBASIC? Does anyone out there know if this is true? If so,
- >what is the name of the product and is it shipping? I know about
- >QuickBasic and TrueBasic and I must say I'm not impressed. On another
- >note, does anyone know of a book that relates BASIC to the Mac?
-
- In Info-Mac Volume 10 Issue 250, I wrote:
-
- This week I received a brochure on FutureBASIC and PG:PRO. FutureBASIC is
- a new BASIC development system from Zedcor and is the successor to ZBASIC.
- Rather than retype the entire brochure here, I'll just type in a quote
- reprinted in the brochure...
-
- "FutureBASIC is not only the strongest BASIC on the Mac, but it is
- arguably the most advanced environment available for the Mac in any
- language. With its drop-in tools, in-line assembler, local variables,
- Pascal-style records, and object-like command statements, it provides both
- high and low-level interfaces to Mac programming. Throw in PG:PRO, a very
- sophisticated CASE tool from Staz Software, Inc., and you have the most
- productive development environment for the Macintosh."
-
- Ross Lambert - Editor, Inside Basic Magazine
-
- The suggested retail price of FutureBASIC is $229.95, but the upgrade from
- ZBASIC is only $79.95 ($99.95 after October 31, 1992).
-
- The price for PG:PRO from Staz Software is $169.00.
-
- If you want more details, don't ask me, call or write:
-
- Zedcor, Inc.
- 4500 E. Speedway, Suite 22
- Tuscon, AZ 85712-5305
- 800-482-4567 Ordering
- 602-881-8101 Administrative
- 602-881-1841 Fax
- 602-795-3996 Technical Support
-
- Staz Software
- 443 Yacht Club Drive
- Suite 1008
- Bay St. Louis, MS 39520
- 601-255-7085
-
- Disclaimer - I have no connection with either company. I'm just on their
- mailing list because I bought ZBASIC years ago.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:21:58 PST
- From: "Anthony E. Siegman" <siegman@sierra.stanford.edu>
- Subject: New ZBASIC? (A)
-
- The new ZBASIC is called "FutureBASIC" from Zedcor; my copy arrived
- today, but I haven't had time to try it. Anyone interested in BASICs
- for the Mac, especially FutureBASIC (or QuickBASIC) may want to
- subscribe also to the magazine "Inside Basic" and associated floppy
- disks published by
-
- Ariel Publishing, Inc.
- P. O. Box 398
- Pateros WA 98846-0398
- (509) 923-2249
-
- Personally I still like QuickBASIC; I find it simple, clean, powerful
- and easy to use (inexpensive, too), especially when combined with the
- "Ariel shell" that was published in one of the first issues of Inside
- Basic. However, Microsoft apparently either plans to orphan or
- abandon it, or is being stupidly coy and uninformative about their
- future plans for it.
-
- I will mail separately a list of books on programming the Mac in
- BASIC. None of them are very recent, but some might still be useful.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:42:08 EST
- From: Theodore Lee <tmplee@TIS.COM>
- Subject: NFS, SLIP, Eudora, Finder: some questions
-
- (Yes, I've checked the FAQ and the recent traffic.)
- (For those with better memories than they ought to have, yes, I'm
- still undecided as to whether to upgrade from my Apple IIGS to a Mac
- or a 486; the answer to this may help.)
-
- a (non-A/UX) Mac connected to a Sun (SunOS Unix) via a TCP/IP network
- and have directories on the Sun appear to the Mac as volumes (e.g.,
- show up on the desktop.) Exactly what software is needed at both ends
- to make this happen? In my case, the Mac would be dialing into a
- SLIP-server that is connected to the internet and the Suns in question
- are located at a couple of places on the net. (One respondent
- mentioned something about the Sun looking like an Appleshare server,
- but admitted he hadn't the foggiest idea of what the software was --
- he just used it as a tool.)
-
- I assume that when this is set up one can navigate around the remote
- Sun's file system structure with the Finder and other typical Mac
- applications. Is this in fact true? How does the fact that Unix files
- have no file type, resource fork, or other "Mac" attributes get dealt
- with? Can ordinary Mac applications use the files on the remote
- system? (For instance, could WordPerfect on the Mac read, create, or
- modify WordPerfect files stored on the Sun -- which in turn came from,
- or went to, WordPerfect 5.1 via PC-NFS on PC-clones?) Can one
- manipulate the Sun's directory with the Finder? (move
- files/directories around, change names, change attributes?) I believe
- on a Mac one can cause a file to be printed simply by dragging the
- file's icon on top of the printer's icon (or am I making this up --
- I'ved never used a Mac connected to a printer.) Could one cause a
- file on the Sun to be printed (locally) the same way?
-
- Or would it make more sense to use MacX? (I'll have a V.32bis link)
-
- And, one quick Eudora question: I currently use Emacs RMAIL via a
- terminal emulator to deal with mail. Eudora sounds like the right
- thing to do on the Mac, provided it can do most of what I can do with
- either RMAIL or mh. When mail is retrieved via Eudora/POP is it
- possible to keep an archive copy behind on the Sun? (I really want my
- mail to stay on the Sun, and just use the Mac to read, manipulate,
- reply and compose it.) (I'd grab the Eudora documentation, but it
- looks like its in a form that I'd need the Mac to understand!)
-
- Many thanks for your collective indulgence,
-
- Ted Lee <tmplee@TIS.COM>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:07:24 PDT
- From: Rick_Sutcliffe@faith.twu.ca (Rick Sutcliffe)
- Subject: Non-Proportional font
-
- Non-Proportional font
- Netters,
- In writing text materials for computing science, I like to present
- programs in a non-proportional font. Courier looks terrible, however, and I
- have not seen anthing that looks much better. (I like Bookman for the main
- text, BTW.) The font should have a good distinguished bold and be very
- legible. It must be available for the Macintosh. What are your
- recommendations? Please let me know whether your suggestion is:
- (1) in Type 1 or TrueType
- (2) general characteristics (serif, sans-serif, narrow or ??)
- (3) commercial, freeware, or shareware (how much where applicable)
- (4) where available
- If I get more than two or three replies, I will summarize back to the net
- as well as to all those who write.
-
- Rick Sutcliffe rsutc@twu.ca Trinity Western University
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:26:47 MDT
- From: Roger Marks <marks@bldr.nist.gov>
- Subject: nonTrashable folders
-
- I've been getting some comments on my question about nonTrashable folders, and
- they indicate that my question wasn't posed clearly enough. Let's consider a
- typical example:
-
- I run Downline, which takes an hqx file, creates a new folder, and sticks into
- it the text header of the hqx file as well as the de-binhexed version of the
- file. I take out what I need, then throw the whole folder in the Trash. On
- Empty Trash, the files disappear, but the folder remains. The error message
- reads, 'The item "foo folder" could not be deleted, because it contains items
- that are in use.' This error continues whenver I do Empty Trash, until I
- reboot. Quitting Downline does NOT solve the problem, even if I do it before I
- throw out the folder. Holding down the Option key does NOT allow the Trash to
- be emptied, although it does suppress the error message.
-
- This problem is not limited to folders created with Downline. I haven't done
- an
- exhaustive study, but today it happened with folders created within Igor. The
- Finder, however, seems to be exempt; folders created by it seem to be always
- deletable.
-
- This problem has annoyed me for several months, ever since I [up?]graded to
- System 7.0.1 tuneup from System 6.
-
- I'd be happy to hear any suggestions.
-
- Roger
- Marks@bldr.nist.gov NIST/Boulder,CO
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:38:25 GMT
- From: miller@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Geoffrey M. Miller)
- Subject: NOW Utilties and WYSIWYG Font Menu Problem
-
- I didn't have the chance to read the original article, but what I think is
- the problem is that WYSIWYG Menus is not loading at startup, instead it is
- coming up with a red X on it in the startup process...
-
- You need to delete the old WYSIWYG Prefs file in the Preferences folder in
- the system folder... this will cause the program to regenerate its prefs file
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:56:17 -0500 (EST)
- From: COLMENARES@rhoda.fordham.edu (VAX Academic Support)
- Subject: Old versions of software, just the facts (C)
-
- According to a New York Times article (Sunday, Nov. 8, 1992; Business Section,
- p. 12) "piracy comes in many variations. [1] Some dealers illegally make
- copies
- of popular software on a customer's hard disk as an incentive to buy a
- machine.
- [2] SOME USERS GIVE AWAY THE OLD VERSIONS OF THEIR SOFTWARE AFTER THEY RECEIVE
- AN UPGRADE. [emphasis mine] [3] People selling used computers may leave
- software on the hard disk, after copying the original software onto their new
- machines. [4] An office computer manager may purchase 20 copies of a program,
- and then conveniently ignore the fact that 30 users are using it."
-
- Another interesting comment in the article is: "Pirates seem to feel little
- guilt. Maybe its is because stealing software is unlike stealing a tangible
- object---the original never disappears."
-
- Josephine Colmenares
- Fordham University
- colmenares@fordmrh1 via BITNET
- colmenares@rhoda.fordham.edu via Internet
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:26:24 PST
- From: Gregg L. Kasten <gregg@CS.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: pinging a kbox
-
- Hello! I have a kinetics/fastpath question:
-
- If I know the ip address of a k-box, is there any sort of software I
- can use to "ping" (see if it is working) it from the outside, like
- >From the internet? Also, is there a way I can "ping" it from the
- inside (i.e. from the localtalk side)?
-
- Thanks for any information,
- Gregg L. Kasten
- gregg@cs.stanford.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:54 CST
- From: <DG06350%SWTEXAS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Popup menus under system 7 ? (Q)
-
- Hi,
-
- I have been having some major problems with popup menu's under
- System 7. I am using Think C 5.0.2 on a Mac SE. I am using the pop menu
- in a modal dialog, it worked for me several times and then when I went
- to add a second popup menu in the dialog box it all went to *ell.
- For a while I couldn't compile the application, also when I tried
- to use the debugger I just got a blank dialog box before the application
- would run. The errors I got upon trying to compile said
- "internal ZREF error - remove objects".
-
- As far as the resource I am using Resedit and it verifies my
- resource as being ok. Here is how I set up my resource:
-
- I create a dialog box resource ID = 257. It references Ditl 257.
- In Ditl 257 I have 5 items.
- item 1 is a button "save"
- item 2 is a button "cancel"
- item 3 is static text "Stroke"
- item 4 is a control, it references resource ID = 200
- item 5 is a control, it references resource ID = 201
-
- My CNTL functions are both set up as follows:
- Bounds Rect: 0 0 20 150
- Value: 0
- Visible: True
- Max: 0
- Min: 200 ;note one points 200 the other to 201
- ProcId: 1008
- RefCon: 0
- Title: 0
-
- MENU are as follows:
- 200 201
- Title Title
- hook on green
- slice on fairway
- putt in bunker
-
- Menu Id is set to 200 and 201, MDEF are set to Zero.
-
- The problem is sometimes my dialog box won't show anything but the down
- arrow and when you click on that you get an illegal instruction error
- or an odd address in the debugger.
-
- Also, I have noticed if I go back into Resedit, it also does not show
- the popup menu, it only shows the arrow. It is like it has lost its way.
- I also notice that the MDEF ID has been changed to 5.
-
- I call the routine from program as follows:
-
- #include "CadDef.h"
- #include "Globals.h"
- /* Handle Stroke input routine */
- GetShotInfo()
- {
- int itemHit, dialogDone = FALSE;
- int itemType;
- Rect itemRect;
- Handle itemHandle;
- DialogPtr ShotInfodialog;
- ControlHandle StrokeType,PlaceType;
- GrafPtr savePort;
- PenState savePen;
- char theChar; /* these two are from handle event */
- GrafPtr oldPort;
-
-
- ShotInfodialog = GetNewDialog (257, NIL_POINTER, (DialogPtr)
- MOVE_TO_FRONT); /* -1L, I believe */
- ShowWindow(ShotInfodialog);
- SetPort(ShotInfodialog);
-
- while (dialogDone == FALSE)
- {
- ModalDialog(NIL_POINTER, &itemHit);
- switch (itemHit)
- {
- case 1:
- DisposDialog(ShotInfodialog);
- dialogDone = TRUE;
- break;
- case 2:
- DisposDialog(ShotInfodialog);
- dialogDone = TRUE;
- break;
- case 3:
- break;
- case 4:
- break;
- case 5:
- break;
- }
- }
- }
-
-
- So,
- Are there any dramatic errors. I am calling this dialog box from
- another dialog box, which is called from another dialog box.(Bad style,
- but it should work).
- Have I corrupted the resource?
- Set up the POPUP under system 7 incorrectly?
- Made in correct Modal Dialog routine calls to handle the Control?
-
- Please send any response to:
-
- DG06350%swt.decnet@relay.the.net
-
- or post an answer.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 20:55:46 EST
- From: Rich <RMILLER%VTVM2.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: Portable (not powerbook) to Apple 13 inch monitor
-
- Any ideas on how to connect a Mac Portable to a Apple 13 inch monitor. It has
- video out, byut I was told it is not a std. plug and play configuration.
- Appl
- elink Technical Info Library is not very specific. Any idea? Thanks
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:54 EST
- From: Mark London <MRL@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU>
- Subject: Postscript previewer?
-
- Can someone recommend a postscript previewer package, either commercial or
- PD?
- Thanks.
-
- MRL@PFC.MIT.EDU
-
- Mark London
- MRL@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:35 EST
- From: JALLISON@vax.clarku.edu
- Subject: PostSript to bitmap utility?
-
- Does anyone know of a utility or a method for converting PostScript files to
- bitmaps suitable for use with Persuasion or Powerpoint. The files in question
- seem to be print jobs sent to a file. They open up in Illustrator as boxes
- only.
- They do print OK using the LaseWriter Utility to download them. Actually these
- are the NSFNET Topology files available from the Internet.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Jim Allison
- Clark University IRC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:55 CST
- From: STJONES%MTSU.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
- Subject: Powerbook 180 & accessories...
-
- Last month I sent a note saying I was about to take the PowerBook plunge, and
- asked if folks thought I should wait for the new PowerBooks. Well, thanks to
- the good advice, I waited, and a PowerBook 180 is now in the process of being
- shipped to me. So my question is this: What accessories should I get / need?
-
- Specifically:
- 1) Printer -- I am looking closing at GCC's new PowerBook printer.
- I have their BLP Elite, and love it. Any other suggestions? Must be
- protable.
- I know Kodak makes one, but must use "The Grappler" to use it.
-
- 2) Carrying case -- any and all suggestions welcomed here. Want to be
- able to take the PowerBook, printer, spare battery, recharger, AC power
- supply,
- spare floppies, and a note book or two, and "miscelleaneous". Any thoughts?
-
- 3) Software -- specifically, PowerBook utilities, both commercial and
- shareware. I know of Connectrix's utilities, and the makers of TouchBase are
- about to come out with a set, as well as a third party (forget the name). Any
- opinions here?
-
- Thanks in advance for your help!
-
- Steve Jones
- Assistant Professor of Design & Technology
- Middle Tennessee State University
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:40:13 JST
- From: attjpn!attjp4!lss@attibr.att.com
- Subject: PowerBook Modem Commands
-
- Does anyone know where I could get a list of ALL the "AT" commands for the
- original APPLE PowerBook Modem? I know there is a DA that lists many commands
- but not all of them. Specifically, I'm looking for some sort of "time out and
- hang up due to inactivity" command. I have seen this type of command on many
- other MNP modems.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Larry Staples
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:05:12 GMT
- From: Mike Reddy <mike@sun-a.computation.umist.ac.uk>
- Subject: Powerbook Screen and Warranty Problems (Q)
-
- Dear netters,
-
- I have two problems with a Powerbook 140 which I inherited from my aunt two
- months ago:
-
- 1) It has in the past few weeks been sent for repair three times with a blank
- screen. I believe that the problem seems to be the video cable (well that's
- what the applecentre told me). Is screen blanking a common problem with the
- powerbooks, or is my aunt haunting the thing?
-
- On a related point, how fragile is the powerbook (in other words am I causing
- the cable to come loose). It is 8 months old and under warranty (I hope - see
- later) and, as far as I know I have looked after it carefully. What I am
- trying to ask is, am I expecting too much from a portable? Are they really
- easy to break? If they are, the whole idea seems pointless. I used to carry a
- Classic in a carry bag EVERY DAY on public transport and never had one problem
- with it! Why has my powerbook been in the shop for a total of 25 days in the
- two months I have had it?
-
- 2) Here is the real problem - I would have been tempted to think that the
- machine was a dud as it had hardly been used at all by my aunt before she left
- us. It is even now having some apple engineer trying to trace the problem.
- (third time lucky?) - Under normal circumstances I would have felt justified
- asking for a new machine, but it was bought in the US.
-
- The first time I took the thing in for repair, I was told that, while under
- warranty, it was an american `global' warranty which requires me to reclaim
- the cost of repairing the machine from Apple US. I had to pay 42-00 (english
- pounds) for the original repair, and I am not sure whether I am eligable to
- reclaim the fee for a computer which I didn't actually buy. I certainly don't
- have an american bank account!
-
- Since then, the machine has (mysteriously) developed the screen blanking fault
- twice more - always withing a few days of getting the machine back - for which
- the company (Fairhurst Apple Centre Manchester) has offered to re-repair it
- at no charge. My question is, can I request a new machine if the problem is
- still not sorted after this latest `little holiday'?
-
- To do this, I would have to be eligable for the original owner's warranty and
- get a machine from a UK applecentre when the thing was bought in the States.
- Is this possible? Can anyone from Apple US or UK confirm what rights I have
- in the matter?
-
- In summary I need to know:
- a) Is the screen blanking a common problem in the powerbook 140's?
- b) Is there anyone who can give me an idea of how rugged the things are? One
- example of a person who knocks one round without problems could circumvent any
- accusations that it is my negligence which is causing the problems.
- c) Have I inherrited the warranty with the machine? Can I reclaim the repair
- fee from Apple US?
- d) How would I go about getting a replacement, if that was possible
- considering
- the original source of the machine?
-
- My apologies for the length of this posting, but I'm sure that you can
- appreciate my need for information. Is there anyone from Apple out there who
- can help me?
-
- Yours Mike Reddy & a (terminally?) ill powerbook 140
-
- (mike@uk.ac.umist.co.sna OR m.reddy@uk.ac.umist)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:36:57 PST
- From: "Anthony E. Siegman" <siegman@sierra.stanford.edu>
- Subject: Prometheus "Home Office" Fax/Data Modem (Q)
-
- Ads are appearing for the Prometheus "Home Office" fax/data modem
- at about $260. Claimed to be a Group III fax modem plus 2400 bit/sec
- Hayes compatible data modem plus automatic recognition and switching
- of incoming voice, fax, or data plus Mac software and cables. Anyone
- tried this unit?
-
- siegman@sierra.stanford.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:06:06 -0800 (PST)
- From: Guy Kuo <guykuo@u.washington.edu>
- Subject: Quadra 32 bit vid Scrambled
-
- My Quadra 700 finally received new VRAM's to make a total of 2 meg VRAM
- after the Korean tariff. Happily I installed the chips but alas switching to
- millions of colors grossly disrupted the display on my Apple 13 inch display.
- All works fine up to 8 bits/pixel but at 32 bits, only the left ~1/5 of
- the screen works correctly. The remainder of the display has repeated ghosts
- of the left most fifth interlaced with less and less of the display which
- should be present. By the rightmost fith of the screen, only every fourth or
- fifth scanline is present with the remaining scan lines black.
-
- Interestingly a screen shot of this scramble looks normal (when I view it
- in 8 bit mode.)
-
- Has this happened to anyone else? Are the VRAM's to blame or the
- motherboard? Since I have to use all the VRAM at once I can't just swap
- out a board to test them. I hope it's not the motherboard. Please Email
- any ideas. I'll sumarrize later.
-
- Guy Kuo <guykuo@carson.u.washington.edu>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:43:30 EST
- From: mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu (Mel Martinez x8378)
- Subject: Quadra Variable Speed Overdrive (C)
-
- Well, like Guy Kuo, I too decided to go for it and install a Newer Technology
- Variable Speed Overdrive in my Q700. I ordered it on thursday from
- Hardware-That-Fits for $219 + sh. It arrived yesterday (monday). Last night
- I installed it. Took less than an hour. I probably could have done it in
- about 20 minutes, but I am pretty methodical, plus, like Guy, I decided to
- solder one of the connectors. Mind you, I build rocket-based experiments and
- work with electronics all the time. I have access to an electronics lab with
- excellent tools.I think that it might be a good idea for most 'Average Joes'
- to have a skilled tech do the installation. Although no soldering is
- required in theory, in my particular case one of the pins that needs to be
- grasped with a 'hook' clip was inaccessible due to the fact that the Quadra's
- crystal was originally installed too tight against the motherboard to slip
- the hook under (without damaging it, that is). So instead I soldered a small
- wire onto the pin from the back sided of the motherboard and brought it up
- through a convenient hole located right next to the spot. I then soldered it
- to the Overdrive's hook connector and wrapped it in shrink wrap so no
- conductor would be dangling exposed. I had a moment of serious trepidation
- when I put it all back together and tried to boot. Nothing happened. No
- startup sound. Oh yeah, the keyboard lights began flashing in unison! The
- problem turned out to be the other connector, the 'claw' not gripping
- completely. I readjusted it while checking with a multimeter and *presto* it
- was fixed. The Overdrive's intruction booklet specifically mentions this as
- a possible proble to look for so it does not seem serious. The connection
- has not come loose since. Still, I may decide to solder this connector later.
-
- I hope this doesn't sound like a long, involved, complicated process. It was
- actually very easy and the instructions are very good. I could probably do
- it all over in about 15 minutes. Similarly, I think I could remove every
- change with no sign of having been inside my Mac in about the same amount of
- time. My warranty expires real soon anyway.
-
- The performance jump is amazing. Every benchmark in the Speedometer suite is
- increased according to the new clock speed except disk drive performance.
- I.E., with the clock currently set at 35.5 MHZ, all the benchmarks came in at
- approximately 35.5/25 = 1.42 times their previous performance ratings!
- Graphics are so fast now that it is almost unnerving how windows 'pop' up on
- the screen and then vanish intantly when you dismiss them. I don't even feel
- the urge to get rid of my ZoomRects anymore! This has GOT to be the best
- 'bang for the buck' deal available as far as peripherals go. The Quadra 900
- version is an even batter deal, since that version is selling for $119 in
- HTF's current MacLeak ad.
-
- In short: I give this product 5 Mice all the way.
-
- I do caution that if your particular motherboard has it's 50 MHz crystal
- stuck in as tight as mine, you may want to have a good tech do the
- installation. Otherwise, it is easy. If you are wondering about this before
- you buy, here is a way to check: Open the lid of your Q700. Look for a
- chip in a rectangular metal package, about a half-inch long by 3/8 wide by
- about 3/16 thick, right near the 68040 cpu (the big thing with the massive
- heat sink on top.). This object should have '50 MHz' printed on it and have
- 'Y5' printed next to it on the motherboard. This is the crystal oscilator
- that is divided down by 2 to provide the Quadr's 25 MHz system clock. The
- corner nearest the 68040 and towards the front of the computer should be
- marked with a small dot printed on top of the package. This is the pin you
- will need to grab. If you can see a clear gap here between the clock chip
- and the motherboard, it should be no sweat. If it looks tight, you might try
- and gauge the gap by sliding a sheet of paper or card under the gap. To
- grasp it with the hook, you only need about the thickness of a new playing
- card or so. If it is too tight for this, you should probably consider getting
- help in the installation.
-
-
- Mel Martinez
- The Johns Hopkins University
- Dept. of Physics
- mem@jhufos.pha.jhu.edu
-
- Disclaimer: No affiliation with Newer Technology or Hardware-That-Fits
- except as a *very* satisfied customer.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:16:38 EST
- From: Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
- Subject: rebuilding desktop loses icons?
-
- I find that whenever I rebuild the desktop many of my icons go back to being
- generic. In addition, some of my files forget which applications they belong
- to
- (ie. a teachtext document will just be "document" in the file type). Has
- anyone
- seen this problem before? I feel reluctant to rebuild the desktop if this is
- going to happen.
-
- info: Mac IIsi, system 7.0.1, tuneup 1.1.1
-
- Paul.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:42:26 EST
- From: moran@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Thomas Moran)
- Subject: Recording to File on PB170
-
- I need some help on a problem I'm having in writing an application to
- record audio data directly to a file on the hard disk.
- The application is being written for a PowerBook 170.
- I am using the SPBRecordToFile routine, and have no problems if I record
- synchronously. But, when I record asynchronously the program often gets hung
- up in a loop somewhere. This loop is not part of my code.
-
- Please send any insights, hints, or help of an sort to me directly.
-
-
- Thanks Tom moran@itd.nrl.navy.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:23 BST
- From: Raza Rizvi x320 <RIZVI@CITI.CRANFIELD.AC.UK>
- Subject: Restrictions on number of connected fileservers
-
- Hi - Does any one know what controls the number of fileservers a machine can
- log in to?
-
- The MAC SEs (4Mb) at this site can log on to a maximum of three fileservers,
- although they seem to be able to mount any number of volumes from those
- servers eg. I had 24 volumes on my desktop the other day.
-
- MAC IISIs with 5mb can log on to at least six fileservers (I ran out of other
- servers to try once I reached 6!).
-
- All the fileservers are running using Pathworks/MAC 1.1 and I can't find
- anything in the documentation suggesting that it is a Pathworks problem
- rather than a System 7.0.1/Chooser limitation.
-
- Any ideas?
-
- Raza Rizvi
- RIZVI@citi.cranfield.ac.uk
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:02:16 CST
- From: gpwidin@mmm.com
- Subject: Screen shrinkage on the Classic/Classic II
-
- In early September, there was a discussion of the shrinking screen
- problem on Plus/SE style Macs. Larry Pina's book includes instructions
- on how to correct this problem, but in reviewing them, they appear
- not to be applicable to the Classic/Classic II. These newer machines
- have an access port on their back panel, which provides (I think)
- access to 2 pots and 2 different VOM test points for making the same
- kind of adjustment as Pina describes.
- The question is: what are the specific adjustment instructions for this
- shrinking screen problem for the Classics?
- In humble thanks for the wisdom of the Internet...
- Greg Widin (gpwidin@mmm.com)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:29:39 +1100 (EST)
- From: RYANPH@mrl.dsto.gov.au (Philip FX Ryan)
- Subject: Selling older software versions - more comments
-
- Scott Maxwell recently posted that one could not sell to a third party an
- old copy of a program that you have upgraded.
-
- This is totally true (as far as my understanding of property law and
- intellectual property law goes - I'm only a Physics PhD who's doing Law
- part time :-) ).
-
- But his (correct) statement of the software companies selling you a licence
- to use their product begs a question:
-
- If I buy MacWoop version 1, and my friend does also, then, come the time
- for MacWoop version 2 and we need to buy 2 upgrades. Or do we?
-
- If one has a 'licence' to run MacWoop - then surely that should include the
- right to use the latest version - particularly when traditional upgrade
- costs are 'sold' to the users by saying that they are 'mostly packaging'.
- Of course one can argue (and lawyers would do so until they were blue in
- the face) that this is not the case, that an 'upgrade' is really just a new
- product that the company is selling you for a discount price. However, if
- that is true, then you still own a licence to use the earlier version which
- you can therefore do with as you please (since the two versions are
- different products).
-
- To repeat the line of argument: the software company has two choices, it
- can either say that the new product 'fixes' the old one, in which case my
- friend should surely be able to 'fix' his copy as well, from my upgrade.
- Otherwise, the company can say that the new version is a new product, in
- which case, buying the upgrade I have licenced a new product, and thus own
- two licences, one of which I can transfer to anyone I like.
-
- If this does seem a bit hazy then an 'escape' to such legal to-ing and
- fro-ing is to always buy a 'competitive upgrade' to the other company's
- product. That other company has NO RIGHTS over your licence to the first
- product, so that it can certainly be sold to your friend.
-
- (I want to enrol in Intellectual Property Law next year - any _real_
- lawyers out there willing to speak up?)
-
- Phil Ryan
- Melbourne, Australia
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 17:54:34 CST
- From: "Juan M. Courcoul" <COURCOUL@VMTECQRO.QRO.ITESM.MX>
- Subject: Setting up filesharing between System 7.1.1 hosts
-
- I'm sorry to increase bandwith with a probably trivial FAQ but I just
- can't get it to work....
-
- How do you set up file sharing between two LC/ii's with System 7.1.1 ?
- I've installed filesharing, enabled the thing, set up each host's admin.,
- created the users & groups, but I still cannot "see" the other machine
- on the Appleshare list on the Chooser. Funny thing, but any other machine
- w/Appleshare on the network CAN see both LC's ! Oh, also, I've published
- the folders I want to make publicly available, with all the pertinent
- read/write/access permissions.
-
- What am I doing wrong (or neglecting to do) ? RTFM has failed to offer a
- solution....
-
- Thanks in advance,
-
- JMC <- does this qualify as a valid signature ?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:33 EDT
- From: LEARYJ%SNYCORVA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
- Subject: Shut Down
-
- I have been having a problem with shutting down my LC. For the past
- week when I shutdown a bomb message comes up and says somthing like
- finder error type 41 and asks me to restart. So far I've had no
- problems going ahead and shuting down but from what I've geard this is
- not a good practice. I have also checked for viruses and used the
- Norton utilites-NOTHING showed up as faulty. I reistalled system 7
- because the message implied that the finder was screwed but this did
- nothing. What is wrong?
- Alex Leary
- learyj@snycorva
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:36 EST
- From: "Jeffrey H. Getzin, (2*b)||(!(2*b))" <JGETZIN@vax.clarku.edu>
- Subject: Speed of Appletalk Remote Access
-
- How does one set the speed at which ARA communicates? We have a 9600 BPS
- MODEM, but for some reason it only connects at 2400 BAUD, which is slower
- than quicksand.
-
- Please respond via EMail since I sometimes miss posts to this group.
-
- =(*(* Jeff *)*)=
-
- jgetzin@vax.clarku.edu
-
- THANKS!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:33 PDT
- From: "RGB Technology, Inc/703-834-1500" <SATRE@cisco.nosc.mil>
- Subject: Switching between windows without using mouse (A)
-
- > Is there any way of switching between different open windows
- > on the desktop without using the mouse? I would like to find
- > a keyboard shortcut that would allow me to bring each of the
- > open windows to the foreground in sequence.
-
- Apollo is a shareware utility that provides capabilities similar to
- the old OnCue (but goes far beyond). Using Apollo, you can set up
- a hot key combination for cycling among applications (actually two
- separate hot keys: one for cycling through without hiding the current
- app; one for hiding the current app before cycling). You can also
- enable a window selection feature which presents all windows (for the
- current application) in a pop-up menu whenever you click the mouse
- while holding a user-defineable key combination.
-
- Beta versions of Apollo have been available for some time now and
- Jeremy Roussak, the author, is going to be releasing v1.0 soon.
- The beta version (in the archives I believe) is solid; I used
- it for months without problem. The release version adds many
- more features.
-
- Steve Satre
- RGB Technology, Inc.
- Reston, VA
- (703) 834-1500
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:29:24 +0000
- From: ben@geography.leeds.ac.uk (Ben Fowler)
- Subject: Technical Suggestions for Apple
-
- Is there a person, or a an e-mail address within Apple that would welcome
- technical suggestions concerning the Macintosh? If so, may I have contact
- details.
-
- I am in the process of preparing one or two replies to questions sent to
- info-mac which seem to me to be best solved by improvements (admittedly
- minor improvements) to the the Mac OS. It would seem good manners to
- mention this to Apple before publishing anything, particularly anything
- implying defects or omissions in their flagship product.
-
- It may be that if such a facility existed then it would become swamped and
- would have to be withdrawn, it may be that Apple are confident that they
- can generate all the ideas that they need internally, but, as I mentioned
- above, I feel that the onus is on me to make use of whatever Apple does
- provide.
-
- Ben Fowler,
- Troublemaker, saboteur and mole
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:13:56 est
- From: "Maxwell Smart (Soell, Oliver)" <SOELL@DICKINSON.EDU>
- Subject: the 7.1 fonts folder
-
- My mother is a typesetter and uses tons (and I mean tons) of fonts, and she
- wants to know if all the fonts in the font folder will be opened on startup
- and will therefore use all that memory. She now has 7.0.1 (tuned) and uses
- Suitcase 2.1 with all the sets and that. She wouldn't need the sets if, in
- 7.1,
- all the fonts are available, but not opened until called upon. Otherwise, the
- more fonts you have in there not being used the more memory wasted. This is a
- rather simple principle, and Apple should have had enough sense to implement
- this into the system software, but recent experiences concerning Apple lead me
- to think that this will not be the case. Any comments?
- Thanks a lot
-
- Oliver Soell
- Dickinson College
- Soell@Dickinson.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:36:25 EST
- From: Dave Elbon <SYSDAVE@ukcc.uky.edu>
- Subject: TimeKeeper
-
- One of my favorite applications is TimeKeeper, which displays an analog
- clock. I'm using version 1.01a which is dated 1987. It still works, but
- I occasionally now get "Application 'unknown' quit because of error 87"
- alerts with the foreground application stopping while TimeKeeper is running.
- I'm not sure there is a connection, but I haven't seen the error when it
- isn't running. This is with system 7.0.1* on a Mac IIci and a Mac IIsi
- with 32-bit on and VM in use. Is there a newer version or something along
- the same lines available somewhere? I think I got it from the archives
- originally, but I can't seem to find it now.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:02:46 +1100
- From: Ben Kremer <benk@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>
- Subject: Updaters for SpeedyFinder7
-
- Dear Sir,
-
- My friend has written an updater for SpeedyFinder7 which updates it to
- v1.5.5.
- Should this file be sent to your archives, it is *not* to be placed for ftp or
- any sort of public file transfer. Please remove all copies of the files. This
- is his request.
-
- Thank you.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 15:37:02 EST
- From: abboud@cedrus.cedrus.com (Hisham A. Abboud)
- Subject: use special gamma in built-in video (A)
-
- Gary,
-
- Gamma correction is intended (mostly) for color monitors. The
- Mac uses the RGB color model, basically an orthogonal 3D system.
- Unfortunetly, real life colors are not as linear as the Mac wishes
- they were. To correct for the difference, Mac video cards can
- optionally support gamma correction, and most do. The
- correction often results in brighter colors.
-
- If you want to know more about it, there is _some_ information
- in Apple's Designing Cards and Drivers handbook, available from
- APDA. Also, RasterOps have a utility that lets you change
- the gamma function; it's on their forum on AppleLink.
-
- Hisham.
-
- Hisham A. Abboud, Cedrus Corp. [Internet: abboud@cedrus.com]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 92 07:54:32 U
- From: "Tom Scott" <tom_scott@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
- Subject: where is speedy-finder? (A)
-
- where is speedy-finder? (A)
- >I remember some people spoke about a speedier finder than that coming
- >with our Macs (no zoom rects, and so on). I searched for it on sumex-aim
- >but didn't find it. Where is it?
-
- Look at sumex: info-mac/cp/speedy-finder7-154.hqx
-
- Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
- Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY 14853
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:47:23 PST
- From: LISTSERV%RICEVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
- Subject: Windows for MacIntosh
-
- This is from the INFO-PC list
-
- John
-
- ---------------------------Original message----------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 4:30:02 EST
- From: MACKINNON@osse.nrl.navy.mil
-
- I heard that Microsoft is going to come out with a version of Windows
- for the MacIntosh. I can imagine what the advertisements will be:
-
- Are you tired of the user-friendliness of your MacIntosh? Then get
- Microsoft Windows for MacIntosh, featuring limited on-line help and
- poor documentation! Why settle for intuitive keyboard commands when
- you can have confusing F-key combinations? But don't take our word
- for it--here are some satisfied customers:
-
- "I couldn't stand all the easy drag-and-click commands on my
- MacIntosh. Now I can do everything with wordy commands that only work
- on one file or directory at a time!"
- - -- Ralph Blernson, IBM user for 15 years
-
- "I hated the 'automatic startup' files. Now, I can go back to my
- AUTOEXEC.BAT file and pray I've got everything set up right! Plus,
- MS-Windows even disabled the Find File command, so I can search all
- my directories by hand to find those utilities I lost!"
- - -- Joey Boring, still using a VT-52
-
- "What's with these 30-odd letter file names? I like MS-Windows much
- better; it only lets me use eight characters! Thanks for clearing up
- the confusion!"
- - -- Mark Rodgers, who thinks HP calculators are easy to use
-
- "By using the Memory Mismanagment(TM) utility, I can have my computer
- ignore the 32 MB of RAM it's got and only see 640K of it! Just like
- the good old days!"
- - -- Horace Kludge, using the "leading edge" of technology on his WANG
-
- "Multi-tasking? Who needs it? When I run a program, I want it
- FINISHED before starting another one! And MS-Windows lets me do
- that!"
- - -- Donald Hapershnalzik, still programming in COBOL
-
- "All those fonts on my MacIntosh keep confusing me. But with
- MS-Windows there's only one! My word processor is much easier to use
- now that I have no choice on the font!"
- - -- Larry Linkworm, still confused by his VCR
-
- "MS-Windows even disabled the control panels! Once again, my speaker
- is set at full volume, and I have no choice on how the displays look!
- That gives me lots more time to run the limited programs that work
- under Windows!"
- - -- Marty Halfgear, who is fascinated by bright and shiny objects
-
- And look at the other options available:
-
- * Non-standard keyboard commands. It's much more fun to learn new
- commands with each new program you get, right?
-
- * Different system requirements for each program, requiring a reboot
- each time!
-
- * The "3.3" option, which forces you to partition your hard drive
- into 10MB segments!
-
- * Limited mouse support
-
- Ms-Windows for MacIntosh. For De-Evolutionary people.
-
- mackinnon@osse.nrl.navy.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:58:46 -0800 (PST)
- From: Richard Eldon Barber <ribarbe@eis.CalState.EDU>
- Subject: windows on mac (c)
-
- > "I couldn't stand all the easy drag-and-click commands on my MacIntosh.
- Now I
- > can do everything with wordy commands that only work on one file or
- directory
- > at a time!"
- > -- Ralph Blernson, IBM user for 15 years
- >
-
- Ralph, Is that not DOS?
-
- > "I hated the 'automatic startup' files. Now, I can go back to my
- AUTOEXEC.BAT
- > file and pray I've got everything set up right! Plus, MS-Windows even
- > disabled
- > the Find File command, so I can search all my directories by hand to find
- > those
- > utilities I lost!"
- > -- Joey Boring, still using a VT-52
- >
-
- It's in there Joe.
-
- > "What's with these 30-odd letter file names? I like MS-Windows much better;
- > it
- > only lets me use eight characters! Thanks for clearing up the confusion!"
- > -- Mark Rodgers, who thinks HP calculators are easy to use
-
- 8 by 3's, Mr. Rodgers, are peculiar to DOS.
-
- >
- > "By using the Memory Mismanagment(TM) utility, I can have my computer ignore
- > the 32 MB of RAM it's got and only see 640K of it! Just like the good old
- > days!"
- > -- Horace Kludge, using the "leading edge" of technology on his WANG
- >
- ???
-
- > "Multi-tasking? Who needs it? When I run a program, I want it FINISHED
- > before
- > starting another one! And MS-Windows lets me do that!"
- > -- Donald Hapershnalzik, still programming in COBOL
-
- Donald, you can Multi-Task.
-
- >
- > "All those fonts on my MacIntosh keep confusing me. But with MS-Windows
- > there's only one! My word processor is much easier to use now that I have
- > no choice on the font!"
- > -- Larry Linkworm, still confused by his VCR
-
- C'mon Larry, Windows uses more font formats that macs do, Plotter fonts,
- TrueType, ATM fonts, PostScript, Bitmapped...
-
- >
- > "MS-Windows even disabled the control panels! Once again, my speaker is set
- > at
- > full volume, and I have no choice on how the displays look! That gives me
- > lots
- > more time to run the limited programs that work under Windows!"
- > -- Marty Halfgear, who is fascinated by bright and shiny objects
-
- Indeed there are several very powerful control panels in Windows, Marty,
- you can indeed do all of there things you ask for. DOS programs work while
- your in windows.
-
- >
- > And look at the other options available:
- >
- > * Non-standard keyboard commands. It's much more fun to learn new commands
- > with each new program you get, right?
-
- Amen!
-
- >
- > * Different system requirements for each program, requiring a reboot each
- > time!
-
- Things aren't as buggy as they used to be.
-
- >
- > * The "3.3" option, which forces you to partition your hard drive into 10MB
- > segments!
-
- ??? an option that forces you to do something?
-
- >
- > * Limited mouse support
- >
- > Ms-Windows for MacIntosh. For De-Evolutionary people.
-
- If I had my choise between Windows and DOS,
- DOS would be my sys of choice.
- ~~:-)
- ps. If you've read the online help in Windows, you'd know MS doesn't plan to
- port Windows to non-DOS machines. However, look soon for NeXTstep on a '486
- platform near you.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:17:15 -0800
- From: marcush@leland.stanford.edu (Marcus Edward Hennecke)
- Subject: Wine stack--please reupload (R)
-
- I have tried to download the Hypercard stack wine.hqx with several
- downloading tools, but the file seems to be corrupted. Could whoever
- uploaded the stack upload it once more? Turbogopher says the file is
- incomplete. Maybe a piece was snapped off at the end.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Marcus
- marcush@leland.stanford.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:50 GMT
- From: Simon Shum <SJS2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK>
- Subject: Word 5.0a unexpected quitting
-
- Sorry if this is an old chestnut - I've checked recent infomacs without luck
- for an answer. My Word 5.0a has suddenly started quitting unexpectedly
- with a Type1 error. I can guarantee doing it by a combination of redefining
- Normal style and then turning Fractional Widths on or off. One or other order
- works everytime. This is without any extensions running.
-
- I know Word had style management problems, but I thought that was between
- different documents/machines, and the 5.0a patch was supposed to fix that.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Simon
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:51:20 EST
- From: "James A. Connolly" <CZRT%MUSICA.MCGILL.CA@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
- Subject: X-Ray crystal structures (3d rendering)
-
- I'm wondering if anyone knows of software for which x-ray structures
- can be displayed on the Macinotsh. Specifically, I want a program
- capable of reading atom coordinates and thermal parameters which can
- then be used to generate ORTEP(tm) plots with thermal ellipsoids and
- hopefully even octant shading.
-
- I know this can be done on the IBM-PC, but printing is not available
- as far as I know. I really want a Mac application since all of our
- writing and presentation work is done on Mactintosh.
-
-
- 3-DIMENSIONAL RENDERING
-
- If the above cannot be done, is it possible for art programs that
- do 3-d rendering to accept (x,y,z) coordinates and three values (a,b,c)
- which determine the size of an ellipse at each point (x,y,z).
-
- What programs are available for 3-D rendering? What comments can people
- make about the one they're using? Which is "the best", "most useful",
- "most friendly" etc.
-
- Thank you for replying to the list or to me personally.
- Personal replies will be edited into a response for the list.
-
- Thanks again, ...James Connolly, dept. of Chemistry @ McGill
-
- CZRT@MusicA.McGill.CA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:40:19 +1030
- From: Paul Johnson <pjohnson@physics.adelaide.edu.au>
- Subject: X for the Mac
-
- Can anybody recommend a good X-server for the Mac? Is there a shareware
- version that I can try out?
-
- Does anybody have anyexperience of running an LCII as an X-server?
-
- Thanks, Paul Johnson
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:56:24 EST
- From: Louis Brousseau <408260@acadvm1.uottawa.ca>
-
- Does anyone know of a software that will synchronize the clocks of Macs'
- on an Appletalk network? Also does anyone know if the ImageWriter II can
- be accessed from a network without the network card, i.e. using
- SuperLaserSpool
- or another software, similar to GCC's print monitor. Please reply directly
- to me at 408260@acadvm1.uottawa.ca.
-
- Thanks!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:47 EST
- From: "Russell Aminzade: Trinity College of VT"
- <AMINZADE%UVMVAX.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
-
- Whaddya know! I wrote to the nets on Monday about "Ars Magna," the old
- anagram program for the Mac that I was wishing somebody would update, and just
- moments ago there was an "All things considered" piece on the person who
- probably wrote the program, Mike Morton of Waipahu (sp?) Hawaii. If you are
- out
- there, Mike, or if anyone in Hawaii can help us track him down (search the
- internet!), lets see if we can get somebody to continue his work. Among the
- anagrams for Tuesday, November 3rd (I love these):
- vain retry, bush demoted
- voters endured my habit
- hey, voters, endure my burden
- renovated bruised myth
- removed buttery danish
- earthy Vermont buddies
- treasury debt hit venom
- No truth served by media
-
- Other favorites: "George Herbert Walker Bush" gives us "huge berserk rebel
- warthog", "Ronald Wilson Reagan" gives us "No, darlings, no ERA law " (I
- misquoted this one in my last posting...). "Governor Bill Clinton" doesn't
- have
- much good stuff (among them "Revolting Lincoln Orb")
-
- "All things considered" gives us "deadliness chortling" and "Doris isn't
- challen
- ged"
- (announcer says that there was a Doris Grumbach on their Morning Edition
- staff,
- and now we know why she left).
-
- National Public Radio" presents us "calibration upon Dial","Panda oil
- lubricatio
- n"
- "Brittanica Audio Poll" "Plaid Urban Coalition", "No diabolical puritan", and
- "O
- ld
- built-in paranoic"
-
- Mike mentioned a 1987 Byte magazine article by him, and mentioned that he
- hoped
- someone would take over his work. I can make this promise...if somebody can
- tak
- e
- the heart of this stuff (probably psuedocode algorithms) and create an XCMD
- that
- takes a string and returns a text record (hmm...maybe it's gotta write a
- file...
- this can
- be a LOT of stuff), I will develop a hypercard stack with a Jazzy user
- interface
-
- Alternatively, there must be some people out there who can write it from
- scratch
- .
-
- ------------------------------
-
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