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Info-Mac Digest             Thu,  5 Nov 92       Volume 10 : Issue 266

Today's Topics:

      [*] AppleShareSetup CDEV
      [*] bo-rad-101.hqx
      [*] Ren & Stimpy Oath Picture.cpt.hqx
      [*] Spectre World Editor 1.3
      7.1 and older Macs (A)
      A little more info, more pieces... (2 msgs)
      Anagram unscrambler?
      APDA's email address (A)
      APDA Info
      ARA no longer bundled with Powerbooks!
      Archie and other online services...
      Atari Disk in SuperDrive? (Was Re: Mac Atari ST emulator)
      AutoCAD IBM --> Mac file format
      Autosaver for any App
      Backing out of folders problem.
      CAD on macs - advice please [Q]
      Canon BJ 820-Quadra probs
      Cost of computers
      Curiosity about PB100 waking up. (R)
      Desktop Files: Trashing and Rebuilding (Q)
      FTPing from a mac
      Genealogy Programs for Mac (A)
      GIFConverter woes (Q)
      Hiding Apps in Sys7 (A)
      How can I change the font in TeachText?  (Q)
      Hypercard & Quicktime
      id'ing sims (more summary)
      id'ing sim speeds (summary)
      IIci 50Mhz 030's
      Invisible init.
      LC III
      Mac benchmarks please
      Mac IIvx and 16" Apple Monitor?? (Q)
      mac interface lacking powerful abstractions to do work
      MacTCP 1.1.1
      Mixing network types on a Mac (Q)
      MovieShop
      My kitty uses Zterm.
      Naming printers (A)
      New one for the Mac Secret Trick list (Al & Jeff)
      Now Utilities 4.0.1 updater
      NOW Utilties and WYSIWYG Font Menu Problem
      PB100 Battery Not Fully Charging (A)
      Pg Mker 4.2
      PostScript Errors with Word 5.0
      Power cord for StyleWriter
      Programming a progress window
      RasterOps (O=Opinion)
      Sharing serial devices (A)
      Stylewriter problems
      Sys7.1 Finder Address Error on Cold Boot EUREKA!
      TeXtures, Postscript example
      Unix on Macs
      What machine should I get? (Q)
      where is speedy-finder?
      Where to find large Worldmap ? (Q)

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Date: 4 Nov 1992 19:24:49 -0700
From: "Apgar, Eric" <apgar#m#[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] AppleShareSetup CDEV

by Jim Luther, Apple Developer Technical Support

The AppleShareSetup control panel is free software and can be
distributed freely by individuals.  For commercial distribution or
bulletin board distribution please contact Apple Software Licensing.

AppleShareSetup is distributed "as is" and unsupported by Apple.
Please don't call Apple for technical support on this program.


********** System Requirements **********

This control panel only works with the AppleShare 3.0, AppleShare
7.1, and future AppleShare Chooser extensions under both System 6
and System 7.  It does not work with the AppleShare 2.0 Chooser
extension under System 6 or the AppleShare 7.0 or 7.0.1 Chooser
extension under System 7 - the configuration features just aren't
there.

The AppleShare Chooser extension must be in the "Extensions"
folder under System 7, or in the "System Folder" under System 6.

********** What's it do? **********

The AppleShareSetup control panel lets you set or disable various
options supported by the AppleShare Chooser extension.  With
AppleShareSetup, you can:

* Make specific AppleShare alerts "time-out" after a set amount of
time.  For example, you can make the "The file server is closing down
in x minute(s)" alert automatically dismiss itself after 10 seconds.

* Completely disable all AppleShare alerts.

* Disable AppleShare "Greeting" messages.

* Disable some auto-mount features.

Full Balloon Help is provided under System 7.  Turn on Balloon
Help (and read your AppleShare manuals) if you can't figure this
control panel out.


[e-mail]   |   Eric Apgar  alias  Gar   |   I said it, NOT Apple.


[Archived as /info-mac/ex/appleshare-setup.hqx; 37K]

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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 23:24:40 -0600
From: Eric Strand <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] bo-rad-101.hqx

Bo-Rad! v1.01 by Joe Fleck

This is an upgraded version of Bo-Rad with a bug-fix and
documentation update on some of the hidden features.

Have fun!

-Joe Fleck
11/1/92
 -------------------------------------------------------------
This is a souped up version of a board game by which the player
places colored dots in combinations and receives hints as to
the ultimate combination.  There are many features to the game
such as a great score list and timed events where the puzzle
is mixed.  Hope you have some fun with it.

32 bit clean, sys 7.0 compatible, color\b/w, etc.

You are free to copy and pass along the game as long as the original
files remain intact (excluding the great scores list).

-Joe Fleck
10/26/92

[Archived as /info-mac/game/bo-rad-101.hqx; 166K]

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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 01:33:27 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Dameon D. Welch)
Subject: [*] Ren & Stimpy Oath Picture.cpt.hqx

Color Picture to go along with Ren & Stimpy Oath Snd. Pictures Ren & Stimpy
with Stimpy's hand on the TV screen. Can be read with GIF Converter or similar
utilities.

[Archived as /info-mac/art/gif/ren-stimpy-oath.hqx; 134K]

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Date: Sun, 1 Nov 92 20:19:15 PST
From: [e-mail] (John Lindal)
Subject: [*] Spectre World Editor 1.3

Spectre World Editor 1.3    Edit the Spectre game grid layout and colors.
                Stone Henge structures confuse the robots!
                Now you can also copy the worlds from one
                copy of Spectre to another and you have a manual.

John Lindal
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/game/spectre-world-editor-13.hqx; 119K]

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 08:27:44 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Frank D. Malczewski)
Subject: 7.1 and older Macs (A)

>Actually, there is only one little bitty thing wrong between MODE32 and
>System 7.1 -- VM dies when MODE32 is active. But why would you invoke
>VM if you have all kinds of memory? I have MODE32 active on Leslye's II
>and my office IIcx, each with 20MB of real memory. No need to invoke VM.
>And 7.1 works dandy.
>
>Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

This is not a minor ("little bitty") thing.  If you only have 8MB of RAM, and
you need to use, say, 16MB (can you say "MacApp"?), then you are S.O.L.  I
want my 32-bit clean Mac II ROMs!

Anybody know if you don't really need to do the SuperDrive upgrade in order
to use those special PAL 4MB SIMMs on a II?  The last Mac Memory Config TN
seemed to imply this was the case, but verification would be nice...

--

Frank Malczewski                ([e-mail])

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:42:07 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Tarun V. Reddy)
Subject: A little more info, more pieces...

Hi guys (or gals as the case may be),
    Appearently there is quite some interest in the ``Crush other
kids'' movie as I have received mail from 7 people wanting it. Steve Jones
has informed me (and now you) that the movie is indeed from Sat. Night
Live. He also says that he has a sound clip of the end of the commercial
("McIntosh Jr. The power to crush other kids"). If he could send me that
clip (BinHex'd to this address) that would be great. I don't want to post
his address and have him overwhelmed with request, so if you want a copy
I'll be happy to forward it to you.
    So the search goes on...

BTW, if I find it, how do I send it to the Info-Mac archives for everyone
to get it?

Tarun

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:45:22 -0600
From: Neil Eric Mickelson <[e-mail]>
Subject: A little more info, more pieces...

Tarun -
    If you find either the sound clip or the QT MooV, please send me a
copy.  As for posting it to the archives, you need to look at the README
file on POSTING in the lowest level of the Info-Mac directory on SUMEX.
    Thanks a lot!
                        Neil

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 11:26:21 PST
From: "Don W." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Anagram unscrambler?

I've just rec'd a forwarding from an e-friend that offers
possibilities...

>If you rearrange the letters in: TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THIRD
>
>You get: MANY VOTED, BUSH RETIRED

This is positively ingenious!  Just think: no more hunting
through the paper for your horoscope, no more painfully picking
up scattered jackstraws, no more shuffling Tarot cards, no more
messy tea leaves or chicken entrails!  This is prognostication
for the Space Age.

But I don't have time to unscramble phrases like "Thursday,
November fifth" to find out what might happen.  By the time
I finish, the race is already over and I haven't bet on my horse
yet.  Is there a little application or Hypercard stack somewhere
that will unscramble anagrams in a jiffy?  Who knows, maybe
"It's morning in America" will be revealed to say, in effect,
"Welcome to the Twilight Zone."

This is the next best thing to playing records backwards...

Don W. ([e-mail])

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 08:20:35 EST
From: Andrew E. Scheck <[e-mail]>
Subject: APDA's email address (A)

APDA's email address is '[e-mail]'

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Date: 4 Nov 1992 19:01:38 -0700
From: "Apgar, Eric" <apgar#m#[e-mail]>
Subject: APDA Info

APDA
Box 319
Buffalo, NY 14207-0319

US 800-282-2732
Canada 800-637-0029
International 716-871-6555
Fax [phone]

Applelink: APDA
AOL: APDA
CompuServe: 76666,2405
Internet: [e-mail]

[e-mail]   |   Eric Apgar  alias  Gar   |   I said it, NOT Apple.

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:27:42 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Saunders)
Subject: ARA no longer bundled with Powerbooks!

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tim Endres) writes:
>And what will pay to have the ARA protocols work over PPP, and other
>coming technology that would will wish to utilize? IT may be somewhat
>idealistic to think things will work one-to-one like this, but I believe
>in funding things that are needed.

   Yup, ARA is an awesome example alright:  one of Apple Brain Damage.
Sure it *works*, and from the user's point of view it's nice, as long
as you're not using it on an SE... but the guts of the protocol are
INCREDIBLY UGLY (and non-standard in wonderfully undefined ways,
i.e., v42bis compression is implemented over MNP framing).

   ARA should have been written to conform to PPP from day one.  And
it should have been written to support genuine network point-to-pont
links, rather than spoofing the remote network into thinking your Mac
is local.

   That it was not is just another Apple-NIH (Not Invented Here) symptom.

   Pathetic!
   bonze

--
Kevin Eric Saunders (a/k/a bonze blayk!), CometMonger--"NeXT, please!"
   [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 10:46:40 EDT
From: Marc Posner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Archie and other online services...

      This may be a FAQ, but I haven't seen it yet...

      What is this 'archie' system I've heard several people
      mention? Where is it, and how does it work?

      On a related note, is there a list (somewhere) of other
      electronic "magazines", like Info-Mac, that can be
      subscribed to on the Net?

      Thanks in advance.

      Marc  ([e-mail])

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 17:58:20 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Atari Disk in SuperDrive? (Was Re: Mac Atari ST emulator)

Hmm...well, is it possible to read an Atari ST format disk (old format...
the ones that need a new boot sector before an IBM can read them).  I
moved from an ST to a Mac recently, and have some files I want to move
and can't since the ST disk drive died.  Can a SuperDrive _just_ read IBM,
OS/2, ProDos, and Mac, or is it programmable to read any reasonable format?

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 12:17:40 EST
From: Rob Smyser <[e-mail]>
Subject: AutoCAD IBM --> Mac file format

Gerhard writes:

>> I need to convert AutoCAD (IBM) files to a
>> Mac format.  Almost any format will do (PICT, EPS,
>> TIFF, standard Postscript, whatever).

Several approaches:
  - use AutoCAD 10's "Postscript Device" plotter driver.  Plot to a
    file.  The result in release 10 is a barebones PS file full of
    "moveto" and "lineto" statements.  Anything that can read
    postscript ought to be able to read that.  Release 11 creates
    an EPS file, which may be more what all these postscript-reading
    programs really read, but I'm not sure about that.

  - use AutoCAD 10's DXFOUT command to make a DXF, which is an ascii
    representation of the drawing.  Shift that over to the Mac and
    use a program (I believe Freehand works) that reads DXF.

    Word for Windows reads DXF as a graphic format -- you could read
    it into Word for Windows, transfer the DOC file to the Mac; in
    Word 5.0, I believe the graphic becomes a PICT.

  - AutoCAD 11 on the Mac will now copy drawings into the clipboard,
    i.e., convert them to PICT on the fly.  That would probably work
    if someone had the Mac version.

By hook or by crook, one of these ought to work if you have all the
programs.

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 10:28:52 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Autosaver for any App

A friend of mine has the following query:

Do you know of a Mac utility that will automatically save the file of
whatever app you are working in at preset times, like every 5 or 15 min?
My word processor does it (Nisus) very nicely, to 2 disks, creating auto
backup in the process.  The office staff here asked me to look for
something
that would work with all programs.  My reading of the ads for all the
various
commercial utilities gives no joy.  A friend in Minnesota said that he
thought
he had seen something called saveomatic (???) or such on SUMEX.  Have you
run across anything like this?

   I've looked on sumex to no avail..  Anyone know of such a beast?  Please
post to me directly and I'll summarize to info-mac as soon as I find the
creature.
Thanks
Harry

Harry Mangalam                                   Vox:[phone], x250
Dept of Biocomputing                                   Fax:[phone]
The Salk Institute                             [e-mail]
10010 N Torrey Pines Rd                        [e-mail]
La Jolla CA 92037                                    [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:00 EST
From: PC Coordinator <[e-mail]>
Subject: Backing out of folders problem.

For the past 2 days I have noticed a problem on my PB100 running sys 7.1.

When I am in an application, and I go to open, or save a file I can't back
out of the folder I am in by clicking on it's name.  I never had this problem
before, and don't know what could be causing it.  Now, I have to click on the
Desktop button and go in that way.

At first I thought it was a TeachText problem, but I noticed it again this
morning with Z-Term, and Microsoft Word 5.0.

Is this a bug, or did I just, accidentally, set some variable incorrectly.

Thanks.


                    Loren Finkelstein
                    [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 9:24:31 +1100
From: [e-mail] (Hugh Clapin)
Subject: CAD on macs - advice please [Q]


 My wife is a theatrical designer (sets, props and costumes), and
 I am an avid mac fan. She is beginning to think that it would
 immensely useful for us to upgrade our plus to something she could
 use to design on. The work she needs the mac for is roughly equivalent
 to architectural drafting, although a capability for 3D-modelling of
 drawn plan  would be good too.

 Obviously she needs to go and try some different packages out, and
 see what suits her needs, however we really don't have much of an
 idea of what is available, what sort of computational power these
 packages require (i.e. how cheap a mach can we run them on), whether
 they are useless without a plotter (as opposed to a laser printer),
 etc.

 So this is  call for general advice and suggestions og sofltware and
 hardware people have found useful for similar tasks.

 thanks in anticipation

 Hugh Clapin

 email is preferable, and I'll summarise to the list if there is
 sufficient response.

[e-mail]

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Date: 5 Nov 1992 14:50:13 U
From: "Anne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Canon BJ 820-Quadra probs

Does anyone know why a Canon BJ 820 connected by SCSI to a Quadra 700 would
not
allow the computer to start as long as the printer is powered down? Another
interesting facet is that the Quadra hangs if the printer is turned off while
the computer is running.

Thanks,
-abh

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 12:23:48 CST
From: [e-mail] (Bob Schenk)
Subject: Cost of computers

How much does a personal computer really cost when everything is included?
The 11-2-92 issue of the Wall Street Journal (p. B5) reported a study
examining computer costs at 10 large US companies. It found the cost of
having PCs far exceeed the $2000 to $6500 these companies had budgeted
per PC annually. There were additional costs of $6000 to $15000
a year for every PC, and the study thought these estimates conservative.

The source of additional cost was the value of time which users
spend helping each other. Some workers become computer gurus and
spend half their time solving problems for others. (Sometimes
the guru is the one who read the manual.)

The study tells us again that the cost of a machine is very different
>From its purchase price. It also suggests intriguing questions about
the importance of user-friendliness. Does user-friendliness translate
into lower computer costs? If so, is the Mac, despite its higher price,
the low-cost computer?

R. Schenk

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 20:35:34 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian Gaeke)
Subject: Curiosity about PB100 waking up. (R)

Unless you are running with file capture on, ZTerm never needs to read
the disk. therefore, it can run with the hard drive off. SysBeep()
doesn't keep the system beep in memory, however, so it needs to read the
sound off the disk if it's not already in memory.

Brian
---
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate, Inc.  Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:00:01 GMT
From: [e-mail] (James Kew)
Subject: Desktop Files: Trashing and Rebuilding (Q)

Anthony E. Siegman, <[e-mail]> writes:

>   I know about the "hold-down-multiple-keys-and-Restart" technique
>for rebuilding the Desktop file; but doing this on a system with three
>hard disks and multiple INITs means holding down the keys for a *long*
>time, screwing up several of the INITs which look for keys themselves,
>and not being sure all the volumes are actually rebuilt.

Now I was thinking about this just last week...

Rebuilding the desktop isn't easy! Restart, wait for the init icons to
finish so as you don't disable any of them, jam the keys down and hope you
got in in time...

The other method I use it to quit all the apps running and then quit the
Finder (using Anti-Finder to kill it or SpeedyFinder7 to add a Quit item to
it). Hold down the keys as the Finder restarts...

Now, this is still a bit involved... which gives me an idea for a nice
little utility. How about an app to automate desktop rebuilds? Just launch
it and wait....

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:42:31 +0200
From: [e-mail] (David L. Hirschberg)
Subject: FTPing from a mac

Dear Netters,

What do I have to do to FTP from a mac?  I have the FTP number of the mac I
want to contact but fetch and Telnet just spin their wheels when I try to
access it.  I downloaded FTPd from Sumex-aim and can get it to work on my
SE but can not get it to work on my Quadra 950.  All other communications
functions are working on the Quadra (ARA, Fetch, Telnet) so I do not think
there is a problem with the hookup. I like all the features of FTPd, but if
it will not run on my quadra then I am not that excited about using it.
Shouldn't fetch or Telnet work without using anything anyway?  Any
suggestions?

David ([e-mail])

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Date: 5 Nov 92 03:35:46 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Matthew Harrington)
Subject: Genealogy Programs for Mac (A)

In digest <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] writes:

> You may get
>some valuable info from LROOTS, a list which deals exclusively with
>genealogy.

Check out the newsgroup soc.roots which is all about genealogy.
There is some motivation to rename that newsgroup to soc.genealogy
so that people find it easier.  It is very common for people to have
looked for a genealogy newsgroup and not have known to look for
soc.roots

                    Matt Harrington

PS.  My recommendation for genealogical software is PAF (Personal
Ancestoral File) from the Mormons.  It is only $35 and they set the
standard for the industry with GEDCOM.  Reunion is also good, but
more money.

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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 19:43:22 PST
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: GIFConverter woes (Q)

I recently grabbed GIFConverter from the archive, and have been
playing with it.  So far, it doesn't appear that I'll continue
using GIFConverter because I'm having trouble copying stuff to
the Clipboard.  Specifically, pictures that appear fine in
GIFConverter become badly ditherd when copied-and-pasted into
another program (like MacDraw Pro, for e.g.).  Also, opening
a GIFConverter-generated PICT in GIFConverter is fine, but opening
such a PICT in another program (like TeachText, for e.g.) results
again in a badly dithered picture.  This is *very disappointing* :-(

I'll be more than happy to continue using GIFConverter (and send in
my shareware fee) if someone could help me out here.  How do I keep
GIFConverter files faithful when opened in another program?

FYI, I'm using an SE/30 with a Radius Color Pivot/LE (8-bit).

Thanks for your help.
--John.
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 08:48:23 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Hiding Apps in Sys7 (A)

A little control panel called ProSwitch (on info-mac) allows you to cycle
through your open applications, hiding all others (the hiding is an option -
I don't hide them, just use it for changing apps by keyboard). I wish it
also gave the ability to hide the current app from the keyboard. Anyway,
you might check ProSwitch out and see if it works for you. It's free.
Bryan Walls
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:50 EST
From: PC Coordinator <[e-mail]>
Subject: How can I change the font in TeachText?  (Q)

I just want to change the default font to one where all the characters are the
same size.  (like Courier, and VT100)

It would make it much easier to read text that I download that is supposed to
be lined up.

I looked around with ResEdit, but couldn't find a font resource.

Is it possible?


Thanks,
                    Loren Finkelstein
                    [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:08:34 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Hypercard & Quicktime

I haven't had time to keep up with the latest word on integrating Quicktime
and Hypercard.

How easy/difficult is it?

Any cool examples and/or tools available for integrating the two?

Thanks in advance.

Virtually yours,


Michael A Ney
 ---------------------------
[e-mail]
ext 7012

* May U live 2 C the dawn.

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Date: 05 Nov 1992 15:39:02 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: id'ing sims (more summary)

thanks to Alberto L. Zuniga

more usefull info:
Somewhere on the individual simm chips ther should be a
number with a dash in it.  The numbers following the
dash indicate the speed.  For example I have some old
simms from a Plus here in fromt of me.  Each chip has
the following three lines:

        NEC Japan  - manufacturer
        8704ED74   - serial number (I think)
        41256-15   - size and speed

I don't know what the first 2 didgits of the third line
are, but the next 3 indicate size (256k) and the 2
after the dash indicate speed (150ns).

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Date: 05 Nov 1992 09:04:21 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: id'ing sim speeds (summary)

Here is a useful summary about id'ing sims.  thanks to Paul and Kee.

The speed is in the dash number on the chips.  You'll find some number
ending in -12 or -7 or -07 or something similar.  The 12=120ns, 7 or
07=70ns, etc.  Some SIMMS have the info silk-screened on the board itself.

Lets say your computer requires 80 ns RAM. If you mix 70 and 80 ns RAM in
the same bank and they are all the same size, your computer will not notice
or care. The 80 ns refers to how long it takes the RAM to get the requested
data and present it to the CPU to read. If it presents it early, the CPU
will not care. The CPU can only go 80 ns and thats why 80 ns RAM was
specified.

Thanks to all the folks who replied.
nohl

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 7:03:41 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: IIci 50Mhz 030's

I am currently considering upgrading my IIci with a 50Mhz 030
card (with 50Mhz FPU).  I have narrowed my choices to the
Daystar PowerCache 50 and the Applied Engineering Transwarp
units, both with FPU's.  Can anyone indicate to me any
relative merits between one or the other with respect to
reliability, advertised performance, and customer service
I can be contacted at [e-mail] or
George Alexander
Simon Fraser University, Dept of Biological Sciences
Burnaby, BC Canada   V5A 1S6           THANKS

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:47 EST
From: PC Coordinator <[e-mail]>
Subject: Invisible init.

I just noticed that when I start up all of my inits are one space over to
the right.  In other words, there appears to be an invisible init that is
loading before the others.  Am I in danger?  I didn't see anything unusual
in my system folder.


                Loren Finkelstein

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 08:09:06 IST
From: "Dr. Michael Silverstein"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: LC III

I was thinking about buying an LCII but am willing to
wait for a few months as I am in no great hurray
if it is worth it for an LCIII...is it worth it?
ie is a significant boost in performance expected?

For instance, it turned out that  the wait for the LCII
was not worthwhile, since it really didn't give you
much besides virtual memory and especially since the
original 'wait' was to have been a month and the international
delay resulted in them coming out here about half
a year (at least) after the US release.

PLEASE don't tell me that there will always be a
new computer etc., I know, I know, it just sounds
that the advantages of the LCIII for my use
could make the wait worthwhile.

Peripheral questions?
Would the FPUs avaiable for the LCII suit
the type of machine that the LCIII will be or
will there be a whole new generation of FPUs?
WIll I be able to use a A4 size (15 inch?)
monochrome monitor to its full advantage
on such a beast without buying a graphics card?

Thanks in advance!!!

P.S. I find that a pretty funny marketing scheme to
sell 7.1 as the worldscripting OS and then withhold
the world script............

Materials Engineering, Technion    Tel: [phone]
Haifa, Israel 32000                Fax: [phone]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92  22:20 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac benchmarks please

I've been out of touch for a couple of days while our Vax was down, but I'd
like to echo the request someone made a few days' back for some benchmark
results for Macs.
Apple seem to me to be enormously reticent about giving performance data
for their machines in terms of SPECmarks, MFLOPS and so on.  While I'll
readily admit that such statistics don't tell the full story of a machines'
efficiency, because that's greatly influenced by ease of use and the quality
of the available applications, they would provide useful ammo when it comes
to measuring Macs against the competition, particularly PCs.  (I'll also
readily admit that I don't fully understand what these stats mean!)
For example, one of the staff in my Dept currently has funds to buy a
desktop machine (but not a workstation), and he's wondering whether he
should buy a 486 PC or say a IIci. His associates are more familiar with PCs
but he's attracted by the Mac's ease of use.  If I had some performance data,
especially for 486 PCs and the IIci/Quadra 700, I might be able to swing the
decision Mac-ward (assuming of course that the Macs perform pretty well,
which I have little doubt they will).
So if anybody out there can compile a table of such benchmark data, could
they please submit it to the Digest, citing their sources?  It would be a
great service.  I would undertake to compile such a list if others can
provide the stats (again, please provide references so others or myself can
verify)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:35:19 -0800
From: [e-mail] (David Hartmann)
Subject: Mac IIvx and 16" Apple Monitor?? (Q)

Does the new Mac IIvx support the Apple 16" color monitor.
If so, how much VRAM gives how many colors??

please e-mail the answer!

David
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 12:54:08 EST
From: Rob Smyser <[e-mail]>
Subject: mac interface lacking powerful abstractions to do work

I've been flaming about a couple things
lately that people are fusing into a single thought.  One
point was about Apple's "dumbing down" the Mac interface to
increase its market.  The result is that novice users learn even
_less_ than they do now about how computers work; Mac-adherents
think that's a good idea.  I and others who responded to me
personally don't.  The adage about giving people fish or teaching
them how to fish for themselves seems to apply here.

The second point was that the Mac's exclusively object-oriented
iconic interface lacks some very important tools for automation and
mass-production, as well as maintaining coherence over time.
Lots of people wrote about specific software solutions to
the specific example I used.  The general case, though, of doing
process A on an unknown but large number of objects B on multiple
machines N in a reliably consistent manner, was not answered.
I did hear of an
interesting toolkit called something like "BatFiler", which provides
scripting, filename wildcards, etc., that all other useful computers
provide and the Mac ordinarily does not.  It sounds promising.

In general Macs seem to be fine when you are the only one using it
and you are using only one.  Clusters of public macs are a
nightmare, as each mac faithfully and friendily "remembers" each
nonsensical or destructive setting novice and other users make, and
saves them between restarts.  No problems are fixable remotely, and
none are fixable with scripts that do the fix identically on each
machine on the network.  This is not true of networked PCs or
Workstations (my lab has equal numbers of all three platforms and I
administer them all).

To solve any problem on the Mac, as you say, you need to find some
dubiously supported public domain utility or do some hacking with
ResEdit or "write your own program" (which is where all the
above-mentioned utilities must come from).

My overall point is that Apple is spending too much time on its
hardware evolution and not nearly enough on its operating system or
Multifinder interface.  All of these tools that we are all looking
for should be migrating into the system, not left exclusively to
the helpful hackers across the land.  That tactic worked when
Macs were for hobbyists and buffs, but not in more professional,
perhaps more "institutional" settings.

While Apple is neglecting the fundamentals, the Macs' much-vaunted
ease of use is being duplicated elsewhere by companies with software
R&D budgets (which Apple must not have much of, it having spun it
all off to Claris, which doesn't do operating systems).  If the PC
market ever gets around to creating coherent hardware was well as
Apple does (and there are signs of this happening) then Apple will
be in trouble.  But by then it will be known as Taligent, and Apple
Macintosh will be relegated to niche markets as the Apple IIe has
been.

Just some thoughts.
   Rob Smyser, MIT School of Architectur and Planning
   [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 06:35:53 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: MacTCP 1.1.1

Dear Netters,

    Thanks for all who replied to my request about info regarding MacTCP
    1.1.1.  Come to find out, it is a commercial product that can not be
    found on Applelink and such.  I am disappointed in this, because now
    our group has to purchase two software packages (MacTCP 1.1.1 & System
    7.1) just to evaluate System 7.1.  Now we are most certain not to
    upgrade.  MacTCP 1.1.1 is a product of APDA.  There address is below.

APDA,
Apple Computer Inc.
PO Box 319,
Buffalo,
New York
14207-0319, phone: [phone]
[e-mail]

I hope that this helps someone out there.  Again, I want to thank all of those
who replied.  Your info has been very valuable.  Now we are just content to
just sit by and watch the world pass by.  I'm sorry, where are my manners.
The cost of MacTCP that was relayed to me was about $100, but that site
licences are available.

                    Cheers,

                    Bill Waits

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:26 WET
From: "Alun J. Carr" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mixing network types on a Mac (Q)

A colleague of mine has a Mac SE (system 6.0.5) connected to the
campus ethernet. Unfortunately, his printer is a Ricoh
Postscript laser printer, which connects to his Mac via one of
the serial ports. If he has EtherTalk selected as his network
type, he can't see his printer in the Chooser when he selects
the LaserWriter driver. This means he has to change from
EtherTalk to LocalTalk whenever he wants to print (so he can't
print from any applications on one of the AppleShare volumes on
the ethernet). Is there any solution to this problem, other than
him buying a black box which will connect his laser printer to
the ethernet? Can the LaserWriter driver be hacked so that it
treats the printer as an ordinary serial device?

Thanks in advance.

Alun

Alun J. Carr, Mech. Eng. Dept., UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland.
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 13:35:44 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Peter McMillan AV/Media Services x2117)
Subject: MovieShop

I am trying to locate a copy of this QuickTime software. Hopefully
it would be compatible with QT v. 1.5.

Many thanks,

Peter McMillan
Media Services
UC Santa Cruz

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 17:54:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Eldon Barber <[e-mail]>
Subject: My kitty uses Zterm.

When I was downloading from my dialup number, my cat, Adeneko, ran across my
keyboard.  Zterm started displaying this after each packet of zmodem:
zrdat32: cnt = 1024
zrdata: cnt = 1024
zrdat32: cnt = 1024
zrdata: cnt = 1024

I can guess as to the meaning of the messages, but I cant figure out how
my cat pressed the right keys to get this.  What are the keys?
---Rick Barber, [e-mail]

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Date: THU, NOV 05 1992 12:48:33
From: David Campbell   <[e-mail]>
Subject: Naming printers (A)

For those who are interested:
    How to Name AppleTalk Printers

Use Namer. It is a little application that comes with your
system disks (Print Tools), except for System 7.x.
Why?? Because Namer doesn't work with System 7.
So boot up with a lesser version, and use Namer.

I personally found Namer on a disk that came with the AppleTalk
Option card for the ImageWriter II.

Thanks for all the responses to my query.

Dave Campbell {SYSDEV}
System Operations Assistant
Academic Computing Services
SUNY College at Brockport

Mail to:
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: 05 Nov 1992 14:59 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: New one for the Mac Secret Trick list (Al & Jeff)

...after changing the lables in this or other ways, how does one restore the
lables to their original settings without retyping them?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 23:30:45 -0500
From: "Alan D. Danziger" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Now Utilities 4.0.1 updater

Hi--
  Has anyone else downloaded the updater yet?  (Well, 233 people had
as of 11pm tonight, but ...  If no one has told me that they
downloaded it by midnight Thursday, I'll spend the $5 or so on the
download & upload it to Sumex 'by return'...  But hopefully someone
else has. :)

    -=Alan

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 09:53:25 EST
From: [e-mail] (Sean M. Joyce 93)
Subject: NOW Utilties and WYSIWYG Font Menu Problem

Hi all!

Does anyone know of a conflict between NOW Utilities' WYSIWYG Font
menus and System 7.1 (i.e. the Fonts Folder)?  I just purchased
NOW and when I try to start up with the WYSIWYG INIT loaded,
my Mac hangs and displays the message "WYSIWYG Menus is
making sure that its database is current" forever.  I've
had no conflicts with any of the other NOW INITs, though.

Any suggestions or comments?


  Sean M. Joyce       [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 23:06:24 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: PB100 Battery Not Fully Charging (A)

In an earlier posting, I asked the net for information as to why my PB100
is not fully recharging, according to SuperClock and the Battery DA.  Right
after posting my question, I came across a phone number at Apple for PB
support.  I called and they told me not to worry about it.  That those
gauges are inaccurate and do not indicate that the battery is not fully
charged, even though they appear to.

I've pretty much decided not to worry about it as a result of this
information.
I am posting this because I could several e-mail messages from other PB100
users in the same quandry.

David Van Nuys
Psychology Dept.
Sonoma State University
Rohnert Park, CA

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:24 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Pg Mker 4.2

I have just started to monkey around with Page Maker 4.2 and have come
across a few snags.  I liked the newsletter, tabloid template and
tried to transfer my own creation into it.  On the screen everything
looks good but when i go to print all hell breaks loose.  Either some
of the words are cut off or not sll of the publication is printed.  I
am not using the right size paper but this can't be the whole prob.
If any one is adequatley skilled in using PG maker and would not mind
answering a few additional q's please include your E-mail or snail
mail adress with your reply.  My underground paper is depending on
me:-)
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:38:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "T. Lesher" <[e-mail]>
Subject: PostScript Errors with Word 5.0

Our University has just begun seeing errors generated when Word 5.0a tries
to print documents to a Laserwriter.  According to PrintMonitor, Word is
generating an "offensive PostScript command." Here are some more
specifics:

All copies of Word 5.0a are copied down from central file servers.  We
have been using this system with system 7.0.1 (tuned) since summer, but
have only noticed the PostScript problems within the past two weeks, and
we have not made any significant changes to the system (in software or
hardware) within those two weeks.  The problem has occurred on IIsi and
SE/30 machines.  If a file gives an error when printing from one machine,
it will give the same error when printing from another machine on a
different printer.

We have also tried loading the offending documents into Word 4.0 and
printing from there.  However, the same thing occurs.  We have not,
however, noticed any problems in files that have originated in Word 4.0.

We also tried generating a Postscript file in Word and using SendPS to
route it to the printer, with no luck.  I haven't found the time yet to
delve into the Postscript code generated yet, however, so I don't have a
very clear picture of the circumstances under which the bad commands are
generated.

Some ideas:  is it a System 7 problem?  (We have not noticed it on any
machines running 6.0.8, but that may not be a fair comparison, as we have
only seen the problem two or three times so far).  Reinstalling printer
drivers doesn't seem to affect it, and a machine that has errors one day
is perfectly fine the next.

Comments or ideas are appreciated; we plan to approach Microsoft and/or
Apple if we can't figure anything else out.

        Tim Lesher, aka <[e-mail]>
         "The mantle of leadership is decorated with
          concentric rings over the heart."-- anon.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 21:52:30 EDT
From: Gene Mayro <[e-mail]>
Subject: Power cord for StyleWriter

My little brother just bought a StyleWriter at a good price. The only
problem is that it didn't come with any cords or drivers. The cord for
the Mac was easy to get (as was the driver). We are having problems
finding a power cord, though. Any suggestions of where to look (Apple
dealers have not been helpful)?

- Gene Mayro <V5356E@TEMPLEVM>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 11:04:43 +0100
From: Vecoven Frederic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Programming a progress window

My problem is this :

I have to write a progress window because some operations in my application
can take a lot of time. I try the following : I create a new window in which
I draw the progress rect. (Of course, I save the port and the device before
doing this, and I restore them after.) When the operation is finished, I call
DisposeWindow. If the progress window was on a b&w monitor, no problem. But if
it was on a color monitor, the windows under it aren't updated correctly : the
edges get yellow !!!
Can somebody help me, or send me C source of such a routine ???

Send to : Vecoven Frederic   ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 05 Nov 1992 15:40:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peter Jorgensen - Colgate University
<[e-mail]>
Subject: RasterOps (O=Opinion)

I've got a RasterOps 24STV board in my IIcx. It does a good job of putting
live
video on the screen. It's xcmds and xfcns are well written (they don't crash)
and well documented (I got them to work without much trouble).

The one disappointment I've had is trying to get color OUTPUT from the
RasterOps card to an ElectroHome projector. I bought the converter box, but it
didn't really do the trick. We since bought a color LCD panel that accepts the
standard Mac video output so I've stopped fooling with the converter box.

I also tried the ColorSpace cards, and like the RasterOps better.

Peter Jorgensen - Colgate University Research & Instructional Computing Spec.
        - Mac/DOS/VMS consultant, PMDF Postmaster, HyperTalker

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 17:16:16 PST
From: "Maurice M. McNeil" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sharing serial devices (A)

Date: Tue, 03 Nov 92 01:23:31 AST From: X2F1000
<[e-mail]> Subject: Sharing serial devices on
LocalTalk
>Does anyone out there know of a way to share serial devices (like the
>StyleWriter) over a LocalTalk network?  The ideal solution would be
>software based.  I seem to recall a utility of this nature from a
>programmer in Germany, but I can't seem to find a reference to it in
>the archives anywhere. Any and all help would be appreciated.

I believe LaCie has a software solution, I have not actually tried to
use it.
 -------
Thanks
-----^-----
    0-0     Maurice "Mike" McNeil, BBN San Diego
    (_)+    [phone]    "[e-mail]"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 10:15:02 PST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Stylewriter problems

  Hi there I own a Classic 2/40 and a StyleWriter, run system 6.0.7 and have
a problem when I try to print white on black from Quark Express v. 2.12 (yes
I know it's old, and that I think is at the root of the problem). My problem
is I get a black page and no white type. I think it has to do with
QuarkExpress
being designed before trutype fonts (which I use exclusively). Is there a
cheap (shareware, freeware?) solution to this kind of problem. Oh yes and
please be gentil on my brain, I am not very fluent in the
Mac-techno-language.
I thank you in advance for even taking the time to read my plea. Please don't
send your response to the Net. Send it to me personally and I will summerize
for info-mac. Thank you.

Dominique Labrosse
Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, British-Columbia, Canada
INTERNET e-mail adress
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:57:58 -0500
From: Gary Goldberg <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sys7.1 Finder Address Error on Cold Boot EUREKA!

Eureka! No kidding, I figured out roughly at the same time as Scott Phillip's
message to me suggesting this, so I was provided independant confirmation, but
I was sitting here struggling with the umpteenth reboot and ready to pitch the
unit out my second floor window,
when I noticed EXACTLY when it was crashing, as it was trying to access my
external hard drive (The 40MB Quantum that used to be internal and was the
original IIcx drive.) So I powered down and disconnected the external SCSI
cable and voila! no crashes. Hooked it back, CRASH!

It's a great relief knowing what's wrong. Now I have to figure out what to do
about it. - Gary

P.S. - Reminder of what happened. Fresh format and install of System 7.1 on
an 8MB IIcx with an internal 120MB Maxtor and an external 40MB Quantum (was
the original Apple drive), with or without extensions, it was crashing on
cold boot with a Finder address error. Replaced drivers, replaced System
folder,
reconfigured the SIMMs, everything I could think of until this.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 23:49 CST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: TeXtures, Postscript example

can anyone give me a hint as to why
the PostScript example file in TeXtures 1.2
does not 'display' on the screen?
the Picture, Illustration examples work well enough.
have i missed something?

does anyone know how to get their hands on a
'dvi' like file from TeXtures.  if so , then one could
use TeX Preview to show this, which is about all i want to do anyway...

sincerely,
mrsma@uno

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92  22:18 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <[e-mail]>
Subject: Unix on Macs

One of my professors is thinking of buying a Mac (see my related posting
under the heading, "Mac benchmarks") but he wants it to be able to run Unix.
My understanding is that his research group wants to compile and debug
programs on a desktop machine before porting the code to Unix mainframes
(though why they can't just do everything on the mainframe, I have no idea -
that's just what I was told).
I would appreciate it if readers could supply me with more information on
Unix systems available for the Mac.  Naturally A/UX comes to mind, but I've
been told A/UX 3.0 only comes on CD-ROM (is it that vast?), and is pretty
expensive - both those points make me a bit wary.  I have read reviews of
other versions of Unix for the Mac but I'd like to hear your experiences.
Important considerations to my mind would be the size of the package (can we
get it on floppies, do we need a huge hard disk), price, and also what sort
of development tools are provided.  Would it be practical to develop code for
a Unix mainframe by running Unix on a Mac, for starters?
Apologies if these questions seem a bit wayward but I admit I'm out of my
depth - I personally have not much used, or much liked, Unix!
Thanks for your contributions in advance

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:35:34 MST
From: "Phillip Hicks"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: What machine should I get? (Q)

I am experimenting with a new E-mail package. Please send a e-mail note to the
second address below if you have a problem.

               Phillip Hicks
[e-mail]               [e-mail]
     Hello to those in net-land. I seek your collective wisdom. I
am writing to you from the Very Large Array (VLA) in west central
New Mexico. The VLA is a radio astronomy observatory for
scientific research. We use a Mac II (no letters) for the
telescope operators to keep a log of each observing program and
document our procedures. The Mac II has 8M of memory, using System
7.0.1 (TuneUp 1.1.1),an ethernet card, CPU = MC68020, FPU = 68881,
and it has a math-coprocessor. Include also the fact that it has
dual monitors and an external hard drive (80K, the internal is
40K). We run a network of 3 Macs at our main site and 3 Macs at
our office building 50 miles away. Sorry about asking you to wade
through the above, but hopefully it will give you sufficient
information to answer my question.
     The telescope operators spend some 30% of their time at the
Mac II running an observing log program using Excel 4.0. Using
something besides Excel would probably requir###4ny hours of work,
I rather not take the re-write
 route. Updating documentation is
another chore and we use WordPerfect 2.1. They complain, validly I
think, about having to turn their attention away from the array#s
performance to use the log program. Summed up, they want a faster
machine. Now the dilemma.
     What should we do; upgrade, buy a new machine. My boss says
that money will be a factor and that a factor of 2 speed increase
is #not worth it# and to look for a factor of 5 or so. Please help
me collect some ideas on what to do. I need some ideas of the
amount of speed gained (I know, hard to determine and depends on
what we use it for) and the cost.
     Thanks in advance for all your help. I#ll summarize if there
is sufficient interest.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 23:19:29 ITA
From: maurizio lana <[e-mail]>
Subject: where is speedy-finder?

I remember some people spoke about a speedier finder than that coming with our
Macs (no zoom rects, and so on).
I searched for it on sumex-aim but didn't find it. Where is it?
Thanks. Maurizio

MAURIZIO LANA | E-MAIL: [e-mail]  | phone & fax [phone]
CISI - Universita' di Torino - V. S. Ottavio 20 - 10124 Torino Italy

------------------------------

Date: 05 Nov 1992 17:26:09 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <[e-mail]>
Subject: Where to find large Worldmap ? (Q)

Can someone point me to a Worldmap showing countries, cities etc....?

Thanks for your help!
Hans
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 10:47:48
From: Analysis <[e-mail]>

Probably an ultra-faq, but here goes ...

Is there a nifty way of doing a global delete of all files with
names containing a certain string?

Before I saw the light, when I was still using a DOS PC, I had a
tiny program that let me type e.g. GLOBAL DEL *.BAK, and hey presto
every .BAK file in every directory got deleted.

Now, I accumulate "Backup of ...." files in various directories, and
would like every so often to trash them all at once.  Any suggestions?

Peter Smith

------------------------------

Date: 05 Nov 1992 16:12:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peter Jorgensen - Colgate University
<[e-mail]>

I have experimented with using a RAM disk on the PowerBook 100 and it works
GREAT! I can take class notes in a HyperCard stack during a class that runs
>From 6:30 to 9:30 PM on one battery (it gets down to about half.) Here are
the
tricks I use:

Create a RAM disk with enough memory (1700K) to hold a system 6.0.7, HyperCard
2.1, Home, and your work stack(s) (or System 6.0.7 your work application and
document(s)).
Put these things on the RAM disk.
Use the "Startup Disk" control panel to set the RAM disk as the Startup Disk.
Restart.
Startup is almost instantaneous. HyperCard loads in about 3 seconds. The hard
disk never comes on. The battery lasts and lasts... almost as good as
Duracell(TM)... or is that EverReady?

The backlight control knob won't work, as others have noticed running under
system 6.0.7. I don't think BackLight Control will work either. It doesn't
show
up in the Control Panel.

Hope this helps.

Peter Jorgensen - Colgate University Research & Instructional Computing Spec.
        - Mac/DOS/VMS consultant, PMDF Postmaster, HyperTalker

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