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- Subject: Info-IBMPC Digest V92 #173
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- Date: 8 Nov 92 19:26:07 GMT
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- Info-IBMPC Digest Sun, 8 Nov 92 Volume 92 : Issue 173
-
- Today's Editor:
- Gregory Hicks - Rota Spain <GHICKS@wsmr-simtel20.Army.Mil>
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- Today's Topics:
- Loss of Date/time and 720K formatting (V92 #167)
- Problems in adding a 2nd hard disk drive to AT clone (V92 #167)
- Windows for MacIntosh
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- Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 00:19:33 CST
- From: "Robert S. Walker" <RWALKER@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU>
- Subject: Loss of Date/time and 720K formatting (V92 #167)
-
- Lots of helpful people have responded to my request for help, so let
- me state what the answer was -- it was simply returning to Zenith-Dos
- 3.3+. The Zenith setup and configuration programs which set the
- time/date and made the system recognize the floppy drive as a 720
- simply would not work outside the Install program for that version of
- DOS. DOS 5's setver program had no effect at all. So it was either
- stay with DOS 5 (which was noticeably faster), but required the
- date/time to be set each bootup, or go back to Zenith-Dos 3.3+. The
- floppy problem could be handled with a drivparm command in the
- config.sys file. Since several of my programs (such as a calendar
- program) need that date/time, I went back to the old DOS. By the
- way, one of the three Zenith help technicians did have it right the
- first time. Thanks for all your replies. Bob Walker
-
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- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:18:10 GMT
- From: driggins@sctc.af.mil
- Subject: Problems in adding a 2nd hard disk drive to AT clone (V92 #167)
-
- Regarding the second drive on the 8088 XOR machine.
-
- On these cables with the twist, make sure your old C drive (the one
- on the left as you face the computer) is the last drive on the
- twisted cable. It also must have a terminating resistor plugged in.
- Make sure your D drive (the one on the right as you face the
- computer) has no terminator connected. Also, when you say you have
- both drives set as DS2, do you in fact mean that each is set for the
- 2nd drive (some drives begin labeling with DS0 rather than DS1).
-
- Hope this helps.
- Drake
-
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- Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 08:52:08 EST
- From: (Marshall D. Abrams) <abrams@smiley.mitre.org>
- Subject: Windows for MacIntosh
-
- - - ---------------------forwarded message follows---------------
-
- Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 4:30:02 EST
- From: MACKINNON@osse.nrl.navy.mil
-
- I heard that Microsoft is going to come out with a version of Windows
- for the MacIntosh. I can imagine what the advertisements will be:
-
- Are you tired of the user-friendliness of your MacIntosh? Then get
- Microsoft Windows for MacIntosh, featuring limited on-line help and
- poor documentation! Why settle for intuitive keyboard commands when
- you can have confusing F-key combinations? But don't take our word
- for it--here are some satisfied customers:
-
- "I couldn't stand all the easy drag-and-click commands on my
- MacIntosh. Now I can do everything with wordy commands that only work
- on one file or directory at a time!"
- - -- Ralph Blernson, IBM user for 15 years
-
- "I hated the 'automatic startup' files. Now, I can go back to my
- AUTOEXEC.BAT file and pray I've got everything set up right! Plus,
- MS-Windows even disabled the Find File command, so I can search all
- my directories by hand to find those utilities I lost!"
- - -- Joey Boring, still using a VT-52
-
- "What's with these 30-odd letter file names? I like MS-Windows much
- better; it only lets me use eight characters! Thanks for clearing up
- the confusion!"
- - -- Mark Rodgers, who thinks HP calculators are easy to use
-
- "By using the Memory Mismanagment(TM) utility, I can have my computer
- ignore the 32 MB of RAM it's got and only see 640K of it! Just like
- the good old days!"
- - -- Horace Kludge, using the "leading edge" of technology on his WANG
-
- "Multi-tasking? Who needs it? When I run a program, I want it
- FINISHED before starting another one! And MS-Windows lets me do
- that!"
- - -- Donald Hapershnalzik, still programming in COBOL
-
- "All those fonts on my MacIntosh keep confusing me. But with
- MS-Windows there's only one! My word processor is much easier to use
- now that I have no choice on the font!"
- - -- Larry Linkworm, still confused by his VCR
-
- "MS-Windows even disabled the control panels! Once again, my speaker
- is set at full volume, and I have no choice on how the displays look!
- That gives me lots more time to run the limited programs that work
- under Windows!"
- - -- Marty Halfgear, who is fascinated by bright and shiny objects
-
- And look at the other options available:
-
- * Non-standard keyboard commands. It's much more fun to learn new
- commands with each new program you get, right?
-
- * Different system requirements for each program, requiring a reboot
- each time!
-
- * The "3.3" option, which forces you to partition your hard drive
- into 10MB segments!
-
- * Limited mouse support
-
- Ms-Windows for MacIntosh. For De-Evolutionary people.
-
- mackinnon@osse.nrl.navy.mil
-
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