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- Subject: Re: No Controlling Terminal???
- Message-ID: <1992Nov08.111250.5676@hakatac.almanac.bc.ca>
- From: rthomas@hakatac.almanac.bc.ca (Robert N Thomas)
- Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 11:12:50 GMT
- References: <Bwy5K9.LIz@chinet.chi.il.us> <1992Nov2.223617.21724@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> <Bx5wqK.507@chinet.chi.il.us>
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- Organization: Sir HackAlot's Castle BBS, Port Alberni, B.C., Canada
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- In article <Bx5wqK.507@chinet.chi.il.us> les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov2.223617.21724@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> ccpoabt!dan@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US writes:
- >
- >>Is there a way to get the uucp functions working without setting up the
- >>modem this way??? I have my modem hold carrier detect until disconnect, it
- >>then resets (including forcing CD high).
-
-
- Since I don't see any mention of /M or ,M anywhere, and have a successfully
- running heap of modems here, maybe I can help out (I suspect my system doesn't
- know about /M, but I will be giving it a TRY!)
-
- The below describes the manner in which I deal with modems on my 3B2.
- It also assumes you have the following:
-
- EPORTS CARDS:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- The modem must be connected up to an EPORTS card. The EPORTS card is
- a card that has 8 terminal lines on it. A PORTS card has 4 terminal ports
- and a CENTRONICS printer connector on it. The PORTS card is useless for
- running a MODEM in the manner described below.. Use an EPORTS card!!
-
- MNP CLASS MODEM:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Most non-mnp modems just plain and simply do no have enough programmability
- to work in the perscribed manner. Even some of the lower end MNP modems may
- not work as well.. The below will define the features you want in a modem
- at least, and will show you how to effectively use them.
-
- I discuss HST and PEP type modems in the below, but you will still need
- your modem manual to find out "exactly" how you use the commands. I also
- assume the reader can say NON-VOLITILE ram, and think AT&W at the same time.
-
-
-
- CARRIER DROPPED BY USER & SENSING DISCONNECT:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- In order to for this all work, you need a modem that has a bit of
- "intelligence". Here, I am running both a Trailblazer and HST... Both of
- these modems can be programmed to leave "some" line high (on the HST it's
- the DSR {see S24 register}, and on my TrailBlazer it's DCD {see S131=3}
- or DSR {see S130=3}). In the case of a modem that uses DSR, you will have
- to connect your modems DSR to the 3B2's DCD, and hence you will be running
- a "nonstandard" connector..
-
- Here, I have the TB2000 running with DCD dropping on disconnect, and the
- HST is running with DSR dropping and a hacked up connector. Carrier is dropped
- the 3B2 will know because it's DCD will drop, and handle the carrier drop
- correctly.
-
-
- PIN OUTS:
- ~~~~~~~~~
- Here is how I "think" I have it pinned.. It is "possible" that I may
- have made a mistake here, but in all probability, this should work, given
- that I have just went through all the relevent documentation..
-
- EPORTS CARD MODEM DB25
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~
- PIN 1 Protective Ground <------------> Pin 1 Protective Ground
- PIN 2 CTS Clear to Send -------------> PIN 4 Request to Send
- PIN 3 TxD Transmit Data -------------> PIN 2 Transmit Data
- PIN 4 DTR Data Terminal Ready--------> PIN 20 Data Terminal Ready
- PIN 5 RxD Recieved Data -------------> PIN 3 Recieved Data
- PIN 6 DCD Data Carrier Detect <------ PIN 8 for PEP using S131
- or
- PIN 6 Data Set Ready for
- HST using S24
- PEP using S130
- PIN 7 Signal Ground <----------------> PIN 7 Signal Ground
- PIN 8 RTS Request to send <---------- PIN 5 Clear to send
-
- 3B2 EPORTS & PORTS 25 pin female modem connector
- +-----------+ +---------------------------------------+
- | 87654321 | \ 13 12 11 10 09 08 07 05 04 03 02 01 /
- | | \25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14/
- +----\__/---+ +---------------------------------+
-
-
- The PORTS card is the same as the EPORTS card, except the CTR and RTS
- have no function, and do not give you hardware flow control.
-
-
-
- HOW THE 3B2 TELLS A MODEM TO RESET OR DROP CARRIER:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- I have programed both modems to DROP CARRIER and do a reset if the 3B2
- drops it's DTR line. Whenever a user logs off the system, the 3B2 will
- lower it's DTR line. And the modems reset, dropping carrier..
-
- HST = see S13 setting.
- TB = see S52 register setting.
-
- CONNECTION without any LOGON:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- If some caller has been trying to get online, and left his system in WAR DIAL
- mode, and then walks away.. You will end up being connected forever..
- Or until he gets back from coffee..
-
- Turns out that you can set a MODEM TIME OUT. When there is X minutes of
- silence, you can have your modem drop carrier..
-
- HST = see S19
- TB = see S41
-
- Here, I set this to about 15 to 30 minutes.
-
- I also have a job running on the system which every 15 minutes, terminates
- all uugetty's, which forces my modems to reset. It is possible for some poor
- person to have just connected, and then get dropped.. I suspect this is
- very rare.. I don't hear any complaints so far.
-
-
-
- HARDWARE FLOW CONTROL:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- All modems are set up to use hardware flow control. This allows things
- like ZMODEM and others protocols to run, unhampered.. I wrote a program which
- replaces /etc/login.. Basically this version of login runs a script file, and
- then runs /etc/LOGIN. This LOGIN file is the original version of login renamed.
-
- The script file basically looks at the TTY line the user is using, and
- does a epstty hfc, if the terminal port being used is one of my modem ports.
- pretty simple stuff...
-
-
- MAKING A SYSTEM EASIER TO CONNECT WITH:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- I also LOCK my modem's communication speed (the baud rate at which the
- modem talks to the 3B2) to 19200 baud. This is not to say I can't accept
- 2400-300 baud callers. What happens, is the modem translates from 300 baud
- at the phone line side, to 19200 baud at the 3B2 side.
-
- HST = see AT&Bn
- TB = see S51
-
- The modems are programmed for 19200 baud MODEM to 3B2 communication speeds,
- and my system doesn't force the caller to play HIT BREAK, and maybe the "dumb"
- unix box will find the right baud rate.. Here, the modem deals with it, and
- my gettydefs hunt sequences are non-existant. I don't wish to switch
- baud rates if a break hits me. I stay at 19200, and the modems know that 19200
- is all that my 3B2 understands.
-
-
- HARDWARE FLOW CONTROL & UUCP:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Basically I haven't any solutions running here yet, although I have heard
- of a few which are around and out there.. I am not in much rush here, since
- the TB does 1300cps, and doesn't mess up anyway.. It works, so I am not going
- to fix it.. ??
-
-
- MODEM LOOPBACK PROBLEMS:
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Here's an interesting scenario.. A cosmic ray hits the line, or a
- bit of garbage somehow gets in the line. The 3B2 thinking someone is
- there, sends "login: "..
-
- The modem, upon seeing this sends back "login: ".. The 3B2 now thinks
- someone is trying to login via the "logon:" account...
-
- Being a good machine, it send login: back to the modem. The modem
- sees login: arrive, it then echo's login: back to the 3B2. The 3b2
- echos the login: back to the modem, modem echos login: back to the
- 3B2.. Around & around it goes.. Forget about getting any calls on that
- line..
-
- What I do is set the modem to default to ATE0Q1 in it's NV ram. This
- disables the modem's ECHOing back everything it recieves, and the Q1 stops
- OK and CONNECT messages from arriving at the 3B2.
-
- Unfortunatly, the CU and UUCP commands will no longer work, because the
- modem does not say OK, or yield any responses back to the system for normal
- dial out procedures. Hence, in my DIALERS file, the first command in there
- is a ATE1Q0. Now when I uucp out, the modem will act like a standard modem,
- echoing characters, and responses back to the person on the other end..
-
-
- Cheers...
-
- ---- Robb ----
-
-