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- Path: sparky!uunet!tension!jbono
- From: jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: Networking? WHY?!?
- References: <36840@cbmvax.commodore.com>
- Message-ID: <jbono.085m@tension.UUCP>
- Date: 12 Nov 92 22:39:10 EST
- Organization: High Tension BBS
- Lines: 79
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- In article <36840@cbmvax.commodore.com>, bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson
- - Amiga Networking) writes:
- >
- >
- >Most clones have _nothing_ built in. That's where the folks make their
- >money on the things - by selling the other things that you need to make
- >it work. If the Amiga market was the clone market ... The aftermarket
- >networking options are expensive because, currently, if you need
- >networking, you _need_ it. So they've got you.
- >
- >There is nothing inherently expensive (or difficult) in adding decent
- >hardware support for networking on the Amiga. The software is already
- >pretty much there.
- >
- >
- >I suspect that you'd be surprised at the value AppleTalk has to folks.The
- >fact is that a LOT of people use, like and suffer with it and that it's
- >existance sells a lot of machines. The fact is that the ability to _easily_
- >connect your machines together is a valuable one that many users want now
- >and that more users will want in the future.
- >
- >>The only thing I would like to see out of C= is a network.device, and a
- >>network.library as an OPTIONAL feature to the OS, which would include
- >>standard drivers for Novell, TCP/IP, Vines, Lantastic, as well as some sort
- >>of server capability. The Amiga does have a multitasking OS after all, and
- >>the bus is definitely faster than the majority of the "servers" advanced by
- >>the clone community.
- >
- >>Spending gazillions of dollars trying to get 500s, 600s, and 1200s
- >>networking is a waste of money, as noone I know would want a low end
- >>machine like that as a workstation or server.
- >
- >This is a pretty narrow vision and one that is based upon what -you- think
- >"everyone" or "no one" would want. With an inexpensive but (relatively)
- >fast networking scheme on _all_ Amigas, the games folks could have a field
- >day with multi-player games and things like the A500/A600/A1200 could be
- >used as _inexpensive_ smart terminals connected to anything larger.
- >
- >Btw, Commodore doesn't spend "gazillions" of dollars on anything. :) (?)
- >
- >>HOWEVER, an A2000/3000/4000 based network is a different story, because
- >>those machines are far more likely to be used in a productivity
- >>environment.
- >
- >Yes, and they would all make great servers for the low-end machines :)
- >
- >>John
- >
- >Use your imagination, John.
- >
- >Brian
- > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
- > Brian Jackson Amiga Networking Group, Commodore-Amiga Inc.
- > bj@cbmvax.commodore.com
- > {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!bj or networking@cbmvax.commodore.com
- > uva uvam vivendo varia fit
-
- Since I have used Macs enough to use Appletalk, it is abysmally slow compared
- to TR or Ethernet. In any event, easily connecting machines together doesn't
- require built in networking hardware, or for that matter, built in networking
- software either. For the stuff I do routinely on a LAN, such as client-server
- database programming, Xwindows, and print servers, all need a fast network
- architecture to do anything of substance. I would replace Appletalk with
- Ethernet or TR any day of the week in those situations, with any more than 2
- users.
-
- Secondly, while your point about using A500-A1200 machines as Xterms has merit,
- how much money would a networked make over and above a reqular single-user game
- or two user game with a serial/parallel hookup? Networking has been available
- for a long time on PCs and Macs, yet there are virtually no games available
- that use networking capabilities. The ones that do have networking support
- don't have any better or worse sales than non-networked games. The additional
- cost of network support for a game doesn't justify the lack of additional
- revenue created by lack of demand.
-
- Finally, while CBM might not spend gazillions of dollars, I'm certain they
- spend more than a few bazillion <grin>.
-
- John
-