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- From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: Why I need Hardware References.
- Message-ID: <37019@cbmvax.commodore.com>
- Date: 13 Nov 92 01:09:16 GMT
- References: <92315.171226K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET> <1992Nov11.130702.17959@grebyn.com>
- Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
- Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
- Lines: 47
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- In article <1992Nov11.130702.17959@grebyn.com> richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel) writes:
- >In article <92315.171226K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET> <K3023E2@ALIJKU11.BITNET> writes:
-
- >> I think there are a lot of misunderstandings about this Hardware
- >> Reference Manual.
-
- > A personal computer product lives and dies in the market based on
- >it's applications. Commodore, in their own best interest, wants to
- >ensure that as many applications as possible continute to work on
- >newer generations of Amigas, and hardware-hitting software is the most
- >difficult to continue to support.
-
- Certainly.
-
- > So it's in Commodore's interest to conceal the hardware specs.
- >Unfortunately this leaves the basements demo hackers out of the
- >equation.
-
- Does it really? If it does, these basement hackers have lots something
- over the last 5-10 years. Do you think their forerunners sat around
- waiting for the C64 or C128 internals to be documented? Hell no! In
- fact, it was one of these guys, not anyone at C=, who found how that
- interlace mode in the C128 80 column chip actually worked (we thought it
- was broken, when in fact the designer forgot to fully document it before
- moving to Texas). Real hackers don't need C= to document anything;
- they'll get together on the nets and figure it out for themselves.
-
- > I think the AGA chips will be cracked shortly, anyway. Then
- >you'll have a hacker's document to work from. This should be okay,
- >and will probably not threaten Commodore's application base; it would
- >not be smart for any commercial interest to base any of their
- >decisions on such an unreliable document.
-
- That's exactly right. It actually goes a bit further, though. If C=
- publicly gives out the register level details of the AA chips, no what
- the disclaimers, they have in some way officially sanctioned the idea
- that someone needs to know these details. It's much harder to blast
- someone for acting on information C= supplies than acting on some hacker's
- notebook.
-
-
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