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- From: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
- Subject: Re: 0-wait-state DRAM on A3000/16 ?
- Message-ID: <copes.721285262@marsh>
- Sender: news@cujo.curtin.edu.au (News Manager)
- Organization: Curtin University of Technology
- References: <1992Nov8.011924.15591@ugle.unit.no>
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:01:02 GMT
- Lines: 52
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- toredale@idt.unit.no (Bjoern Tore Dale) writes:
-
- >Is it possible to make use of 60ns SCZ RAM in an A3000/16 in such a
- >way that the usuage of the RAM becomes 0-wait-state ?
- >Furthermore, _if_ (I'm not sure _what_ it does) the 030 is currently
- >runnning in 3-cycle mode (or something like that), is it possible
- >to make it run in synchronous 2-cycle mode, thus increasing
- >performance by 50% instantly ?
-
- You need the new RAMSEY and SuperDMAC chipset. They plug straight in. Oh, and
- a little bit twiddler program. That will let you use 60ns ram in an a3000.
-
- >If this is possible it seems to be a nice way to give at least
- >a 50% speed increase, and even more if burst-mode is used
- >(as I currently only have 256x4 non-burstable DRAM).
- >This is particularly interesting since there's no big price difference
- >between 80ns ($15.50 each) and 60ns ($18.50 each) 1Mx4 SCZ chips.
-
- Not really. The whole mb in a 16mhz a3000 runs at 16mhz, so in fact your not
- really using the 80ns ram fully. You will still have the same number of wait-
- states as a 25mhz mb. Using 60ns ram may give a 25%+ increase, I don't really
- know the exact figures nor how ramsey works with regards to them.
-
- >By the way, I think the new A1200 should have used a 68EC030 instead of a
- >68020, making it possible to have 0-wait-state FAST RAM at 70ns, and
- >doing so in 2-cycle mode rather than the 020's 3-cycle mode.
-
- Which would make it cost more, pretty pointless if they intend a pizza-box 030
- AGA machine under $2000 (?).
-
- >The little price increase would be worth the more than 50% speed
- >increase in raw performance (perhaps almost 2x increase ??).
-
- Little price increase? The actual part may only be a few bucks more, perhaps
- around $10. In the shops this translates into a pretty big proce difference,
- considering how cheap the a1200 probably is to make yet it has a ~$900 price
- tag.
-
- >And CBM: _please_ include at least 1M of fast RAM on the A1200 !!
- >(1M chip and 1M fast of RAM is better than 2M of chip only).
-
- They certainly will if you want it, but you will have to hand over money for
- it. Nothing is for free.
-
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-
- --
- Simon Cope
- AFS Designs
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- copes@cs.curtin.edu.au
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