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- From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: PCMCIA card slot
- Message-ID: <36788@cbmvax.commodore.com>
- Date: 7 Nov 92 17:16:11 GMT
- References: <1992Nov7.050827.22427@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>
- Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
- Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
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- In article <1992Nov7.050827.22427@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
- > In article <36782@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
- > (George Robbins) writes:
- >
- > >16-bit, but "fast" in the sense that there is no chip memory contention.
- > >In the A1200, depending on video modes, this may or may not be faster
- > >than chip ram.
- >
- > That being the case, could the PCMCIA card slot accommodate items such as
- > a SCSI adaptor, DSP module or 16-bit audio extension? Very little has
- > been said as to how this differentiates between the CPU expansion slot.
- > Could you speculate as to what the PCMCIA slot would be best suited for?
-
- The things the PCMCIA slot cannot do is serve as a bus master or as complete
- extension of the processor bus. It supports two basic modes of operation,
- one is similar to a basic ROM/SRAM/FLASH interface and can be used for memory
- or things that look like memory, the other is similar to the 808X I/O bus,
- with a 64K address space and byte or word wide I/O data.
-
- The first of these can support most kind of memory applications, while the
- other can support just about any kind of device that can be supported by
- programmed I/O. The limitation here is that the bandwidth is limited or
- rather, the amount of CPU overhead to transfer data may be undesirable.
-
- Devices like serial ports or intgrated (FAX/)modems are one pretty obvious
- option that fits well, others like network interfaces or SCSI adapators are
- in the class that would offer less thru-put than bus or DMA interfaced
- versions, but still offer considerable utility.
-
- DSP's are a bit harder to define, since they come in all flavors, from ROM
- based versions that support only bit-serial I/O, ones that have only a
- PIO porthole, then shared SRAM buffers and finally ones with intelligent
- bus master interfaces.
-
- A DSP of the porthole variety or shared SRAM variety could work within the
- the PCMCIA framework, as either a memory mapped or PIO device. It could
- support the usual sampling, sythesis or speach recognition tasks, but the
- duration of "play" might be limited by the sizes of the buffer memory unless
- the system processor spent a lot of time transferring data to/from the
- buffer.
-
- You might ask "where are all these cards"? At the moment anything fancier
- than a SRAM card seems to be moving from vapor to limited availability.
- At first everyone was talking about what could be done, and there was lots
- of handwaving, but now there seem to be real devices moving into the
- marketplace.
-
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