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- From: jubo@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Juergen Boerstler)
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- Subject: Re: Reuse Discussion Topics (Was: Reuse and Software Components)
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- Date: 5 Nov 92 10:48:46 GMT
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- johnson@cs.uiuc.edu (Ralph Johnson) writes:
-
- >baragry@latcs1.lat.OZ.AU (Jason M Baragry) writes:
- [... stuff deleted ...]
- >What *exactly* is an architecture?
-
- >>Consequently, when I design an electronic circuits (and I have designed
- >>electronic circuits) I think about objects with a specified and understood
- >>functionality. "I need an amplifier here or a voltage regulator there."
- >>Although I don't exactly know the specifics of the interface of these
- >>components, I can design with them in mind and add bits to my design to
- >>suit the implementation specifics of the componentry.
-
- >This is exactly the way I program in Smalltalk. I don't HAVE to know the
- >specifics of the interfaces of the components because they all use
- >standard interfaces. I can put a Wrapper around any VisualCOmponent and
- >can stick any number of them in a VisualComposite. I don't have to know
- >the parameters of the display routine or how to determine the location of
- >a component. Since they are all VisualComponents, they all have the same
- >parameters and use the same operation for returning the location.
-
- Right, if you assume inheritance=subtyping!
- In "designing" this way you will loose control over your "architecture",
- since most of the dependencies you introduce are not explicitely visible in
- your interfaces. Ok, there are a lot of tools that help (e.g. browsers), but
- to find the places of interest (i.e. which methods are executed) is a mess.
-
- >Common interfaces eliminate the need for module interconnection languages.
-
- This is a definite NO!! How do you want to define common interfaces without
- a common (module interconnection) language?
-
- >A MIL is way of hooking components together even when they do not have
- >similar interfaces. You still have to do a bit of work to connect them.
-
- How is this different from "... put a Wrapper around ..." (see above)?
-
- >A great example of a standard interface is the electric system. In the
- >U.S., all houses have 110 volts 60 hz current, and a consumer can buy
- >appliances from any store, hook them into any house, and they all work.
- >The consumer doesn't have to know very much about electricity, other than
- >things like "you have to plug an appliance in before it will work" and
- >"don't stick a fork in the wall socket". An engineer designing a toaster
- >(i.e. someone designing a new component) has to know a lot about
- >electricity, but the average consumer (i.e. someone useing the component)
- >does not. EXACTLY the same is true of software.
-
- And exactly to communicate the important aspects of such things is the essence
- and purpose of MILs (module interconnection languages). Your common interface
- is useless, if the consumer does not know what "you have to plug an appliance
- in before it will work" means.
-
- >>I agree that standard interfaces are required, software bus technology is
- >>another area needing much research, but I dont think SE designers are going to
- >>utilize these interfaces until they change the way the think about designing
- >>systems.
-
- >My only complaint with this is that there are already a lot of us who
- >have changed the way we think about design systems and are using a component
- >based approach. Of course, we are currently only a small fraction of the
- >total, but the numbers are growing. New technologies, like the Parts system
- >from Digitalk, will increase the numbers of people who think this way.
-
- >Ralph Johnson -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
-
- jubo
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