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- From: kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Bonus, Iniquus, Celer - Delegitus Duo)
- Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
- Subject: Re: Wanted: experiences creating test suites.
- Message-ID: <1992Nov5.101658.9264@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>
- Date: 5 Nov 92 10:16:58 EST
- References: <1992Nov3.021826.28239@newsgate.sps.mot.com> <1992Nov3.150212.9247@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> <6886@grus.cs.nps.navy.mil>
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- In article <6886@grus.cs.nps.navy.mil>, shimeall@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall) writes:
- > In article <1992Nov3.150212.9247@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Bonus, Iniquus, Celer - Delegitus Duo) writes:
- >>
- >>Nice questions. Lemme say it again. Good questions. Can't answer them.
- >>Why? I work in a commercial environment. Result? Might be biased because of
- >>this selection process.
- > I see this response a lot. And I agree with you, George, that this
- > biases some research and prevents some lines of investigation.
- > Many companies (at least the legal dept.) are unwilling to admit that
- > their software *ever* had bugs, let alone had bugs when it was
- > shipped.
- > What change would be necessary to permit questions on software faults
- > and software testing to be answered by those in a commercial setting?
-
- Hmm......Let's talk about one approach. Write to company x, asking them to
- fill out a confidential questionairre with bug-related information that will be
- sanitized before release to the world. It can be done. Look at the SEI
- confidentiality approach to assessment information.
-
- Second, the legal eagles are out just waiting for software bug admission, so
- that the lawsuits can start. Somehow, we have to make the world understand
- that software like anything else is not risk free, no matter how hard we try to
- make it so.
-
- I need to think about this some more, because in the larger context I think
- that you are asking how we need to understand our own limitations, and upon
- doing so, advertise and sell software for what it is, not what people think it
- to be.
-
- George Kambic
- sd
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