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- From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
- Subject: Re: Forging E-mail from root to get users to change passwords
- Message-ID: <1992Nov5.174213.2370@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
- References: <82930@ut-emx.uucp> <ratner.720811773@ficus.cs.ucla.edu> <92309.193737CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu>
- Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:42:13 GMT
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- In <92309.193737CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu> Charles Fee <CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
-
- >Why would a hacker (who apparently has root access) need to tell users to
- >change their password? On my system (Linux) all root has to do is wipe out
- >the users' old password and then the account is free. You could then log in
- >as that user without a password and run the passwd program to change it to
- >whatever the cracker feels like doing. Similarly, couldn't this also be
- >done to the root password as well? This is all assuming that there is a
- >normal /etc/passwd file. I don't know what the story is with Yellow Pages..
- >If a user has access to the passwd file, he can change the users group Id to
- >0, too no?
-
- You don't even have to go through all this, if you already have root
- access. Just use passwd from root with the username argument and you
- can change it directly from root.
-
- >I'm curious as to (if the above is correct) what can be done to cut down the
- >chances of such an attack..
-
- Mail forgery is a problem inherent in the non-encrypted non-verified
- SMTP mail world. Tell your users not to do certain things when you
- give them the account.
-
- --
- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
- in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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