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- From: cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch)
- Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
- Subject: Re: Comments on AppleTalk Internet Router?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.010122.25426@novell.com>
- Date: 11 Nov 92 01:01:22 GMT
- References: <1992Nov8.135222.28797@colorado.edu> <1992Nov9.181236.3413@novell.com>
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-
- I believe I gave some net.comments, and happen to be quite mistaken:
-
- In article <1992Nov9.181236.3413@novell.com> cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov8.135222.28797@colorado.edu> cary@jove.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary) writes:
- >>I am looking for a cheap solution to AppleTalk tunneling
- >>through IP networks. Recently I have heard of the
- >>AppleTalk Internet Router (3.0?). Does anyone have experience
- >>with this product?
- >
- > It's not released, but Alan Oppenheimer was showing it on the
- > Interop floor.
-
- Alan was NOT showing an Apple Internet Router on the floor. He
- was merely giving a technology demonstration of AURP _ONLY_.
- I saw some file transfers across the experimental Apple Internet
- over the Internet via some experimental demo code, and it WAS NOT
- an Apple Internet Router (any version).
-
- >>1. Does it do KIP (so that I can run it with CAP).
- >
- > No. It uses the new AURP suite of protocols (functions), which
- > is not compatible with any current AppleTalk in IP methods.
-
- And that's all I saw, AURP functionality.
-
- >>2. Does it run on a Mac Plus (with a SCSI ethernet adaptor)? I
- >> have some of these around, little used. So I could
- >> dedicate a MacPlus. Otherwise:
- >
- > Good question. System 7 is required, and you'ld need 4MB+ memory
- > and SCSI Ethernet drivers that don't die. It might actually
- > work, though.
-
- Now that I realize that what I saw was just an Apple technology
- demonstration of EXPERIMENTAL code, my speculation on system
- requirements are REALLY off the mark. I have no idea what they
- would be.
-
- >>3. Will it significantly slow down a Mac IIcx?
- >
- > Anytime you use a workstation for routing, you will always notice
- > a performance hit. The real question is where is your functionality/
- > performance threshold? If a lot of folks are going to traverse it
- > to print, and the poor user needs the CPU cycles, it's not a good
- > idea. Time to add an interface to your NetWare servers (to provide
- > the routing), or get another stand-alone router.
-
- This relates only to Apple's release AIR v2.0 (or whatever the
- current release is).
-
- Sorry about any confusion or product anticipation this may have
- created. I'll make sure what I'm looking at is what I think it
- is _BEFORE_ I talk about it. I know of NO upcoming AIR release,
- or any other product that has AURP in it, from any company.
-
- As my Dad always said, assumption and speculation is the mother
- of all mistakes, and I sure made a big one here.
-
- Chris
- ---
- Chris Ranch
- Internetworking Products Division
- Novell, Inc. San Jose, CA
- (408)473-8667 cranch@novell.com
- I may work for Novell, but I don't speak for them...
-