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- From: parris@star.enet.dec.com (Keith B. Parris)
- Subject: Re: Plans for mixed Alpha/VAX cluster with common system disk?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov12.224853.23999@engage.pko.dec.com>
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- Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
- References: <01GQSBYNA64Y9I497E@KVI.nl>
- Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:15:22 GMT
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- In article <01GQSBYNA64Y9I497E@KVI.nl>, F.Zwarts@KVI.NL ("Fred Zwarts, KVI,
- Groningen, NL.") writes...
- >Because of curiousity and also a little need to plan our future I have the
- >following question.
- >
- >I understood that DEC plans to allow mixed Alpha/VAX clusters in the future.
- >Does anyone know whether this includes mixed clusters with a common system
- >disk?
-
- We don't presently plan to support a common system disk shared between VAX and
- Alpha systems. Cluster-common files (SYSUAF, RIGHTSLIST, etc.) can be shared.
-
- >I suspect that, in order to allow such a beast, the definition of SYS$SYSROOT,
- >which now points to the equivalent of SYS$SPECIFIC and SYS$COMMON must be
- >changed to something like a search list of
- >
- >SYS$SYSROOT ->
- > SYS$NODE_SPECIFIC for e.g. MODPARAMS.DAT
- > SYS$ARCHITECTURE_SPECIFIC for e.g. the .EXE files
- > SYS$COMMON for e.g. HELPLIB.HLB, STARTUP.COM
-
- Your suggestion sounds like a reasonable way it might have been done. But a
- lot of pieces of VMS make assumptions about the system disk structure. Can you
- imagine the VMS upgrade procedure having to keep track of two VMS$COMMON
- directory trees? When I was at the CSC, I once got a call from a poor fellow
- who had managed, by restoring a non-image backup to his system disk, followed
- by some frantic SET FILE/ENTER commands, to get two different versions of VMS
- to boot from the same disk at once, but it's not something I'd recommend. :-)
-
- >Would there be other technical problems with a common system disk for a mixed
- >cluster? I suspect the boot block, or is it only used by VAX hardware?
-
- Actually, the boot block wouldn't be a problem: it was extended for Alpha in
- such a way that the VAX and Alpha information can coexist and not conflict.
-
- For planning purposes, think along the same lines as folks did when they were
- running 5.4-3, wanted to continue that, yet wanted to add a new 6000-610 to the
- cluster: they installed 5.5 on a separate system disk, and used the appropriate
- logicals to point the SYSUAF, etc. for the new system to the old system disk.
-
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