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- From: jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu (Johan A. Grape)
- Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
- Subject: Re: Linux - the future? [really: TeX flames]
- Message-ID: <1992Nov12.145057.20708@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
- Date: 12 Nov 92 14:50:57 GMT
- References: <1992Nov07.192948.15392@ksmith.uucp> <peterd.721323574@pjd.dev.cdx.mot.com> <1992Nov11.171217.150315@watson.ibm.com>
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- In article <1992Nov11.171217.150315@watson.ibm.com> njs@watson.ibm.com (Nick Simicich) writes:
- >In article <peterd.721323574@pjd.dev.cdx.mot.com> peterd@pjd.dev.cdx.mot.com (Peter Desnoyers) writes:
- >>keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith) writes:
- >>
- >>>Hmm, I know a *LOT* of secretaries. Not one of which has ever even
- >>>*THOUGHT* of doing any mathmatics typesetting.
- >
- >[....]
- >
- >>Of course there are secretaries out there who typeset mathematics -
- >>they just happen to work for people who write papers or textbooks that
- >>require mathematics typesetting. You don't think the chairman of the
- >>math department at your local college types his papers himself, do
- >>you?
- >>
- >>As a data point, someone I know who is a secretary for a professor at
- >>MIT does do mathematical typesetting, and uses TeX for it. It may be
- >>complicated, but it's simpler than the alternatives.
- >
- >I have a friend who used to make her living as a mathametical typist,
- >freelancing typing papers and thesises (sp? thesi?) for folks before
- >TeX. (She used a Selectric with symbol typeballs, and also presapply
- >transfer symbol sheets, and some hand drawing...) I showed her LaTeX
- >and equation typing stuff, and she knew why she was not getting that
- >sort of work anymore, but she wasn't real impressed. Recently, I
- >showed her the Word-for-Windows equation editor, and she was a lot more
- >impressed.
- >
- >Secretaries around here who use Unix workstations use Frame or
- >Interleaf. Or they use OS/2 and one of the wysiwyg products. But
- >before workstations, and before PCs, most of them used GML, on IBM
- >Script, on the mainframes.
- >
- >I think that the answer is that Secretaries may be smarter and more
- >adaptable than many folks give them credit for.
-
-
- If you whip out Leslie Lamport's little LaTeX manual you will find
- a quote of either Kernigan or Richie (don't remember which at this
- moment) which goes:
-
- "What you see is all you get"
-
- I wrote my Master's thesis with Word 5, and it was a joke. The
- current WYSIWYG editors are a joke because the formatting is
- not rigorously defined. Equations come out ok with the new
- editor they supply, but it can not be called type-setting. It is
- ridiculous to go through a document in "print-preview", correct
- all errors and then print it to find pages missing. Formatting
- styles different in appearance etc. With Xdvi I have never seen this. To
- me typesetting means "book-like" or "having the appearance of
- being professionally printed". Your $200.- do it all Word
- processor can not compare with the appearance of a TeX document.
-
- Somewhat more cumbersome - yes.
-
- Fewer bugs, better consistency.
-
- That's my humble opinion.
-
- regards
- Johan
-