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Linux-Activists Digest #491, Volume #3            Fri, 6 Nov 92 07:00:14 EST

Contents:
  Re: Security Alert w/ uemacs3.11 (Joe M. Doss)
  Re: 0.98pl1 doesn't recognise my mouse (David Pincus)
  modem help (Scott T Carpenter)
  make (SLS 0.98) not operating properly (Carl vonLoewenfeldt)
  (none) (REMACLE YANNIK)
  How to set up Minicom to respond to Non-Root users (Little Kenny Hamer)
  Re: SLS install in 2 MB (Marios Siormanolakis)
  Re: SLS-Permission-Drama (elm/mail) (Michael Will)
  Re: compiling ghostscript/view (Michael Will)
  Re: UUCP/SMAIL/ETC.. Needed for Linux (Sami-Pekka Hallikas)
  Re: BOOK WANTED: Graphics Programming for the 8514/A (David Halliwell)
  Problem installing Linux )Par(part II) (John B. Lee)
  Cobol (Michael Kraehe)

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From: [e-mail] (Joe M. Doss)
Subject: Re: Security Alert w/ uemacs3.11
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 18:49:13 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Zabka) writes:
|
| 1. Logged in as nonprivileged user rza
|
| 2. rza % ll /etc/profile
| -rw-r--r--    root    root    <date>          /etc/profile
|
| 3. rza % emacs /etc/profile
|
|    ...edit...edit...
|    ^X^S
|
|  --> uemacs tells me: wrote 23 lines
|
|               Although the file should have been readonly!
|
| 4. rza % ll /etc/profile
| -rw-------    rza     users   <date>          /etc/profile
|
|       !!!!! ___OOOPS!____ !!!!
|
|  I think everybody should be warned about this behaviour. Haven't looked
|  at the sources yet, but I expect it to be a bug in uemacs rather than in
|  Linux.

It looks like rza has write permissions on directory /etc.  By default,
uemacs renames the original file to a backup name, then writes the changed
file as a brand-new file, then unlinks the backup after the successful
write.  A user does not have to have write permission on a file to rename
or delete it, just write permission on the **directory** where the file lives.

Check the permissions on /etc - you should find something like:

drwxrwxrwx   root  system     <date>  /etc

--
===========================================================================
|     Joe M. Doss, Jr.                     (standard disclaimer applies)  |
|  [e-mail]                  <insert cute quote here>    |
===========================================================================

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Subject: Re: 0.98pl1 doesn't recognise my mouse
From: David Pincus <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 16:44:00 EST

Hi there, I'm sick of MS-DOS/WIN and I'd like to move to linux, I've been
reading the conference and can't figure out exactly what files to get to
this. I can ftp to tsx-11.mit.edu.  I have a 386/33 8mb ram and a free 20 meg h
ard drive. but if I can get enough decent software (ie some windowing, dtp,
wordprocessing, telecom) I'l gladly erase my 80 meg dos drive. Any replies
would be greatly appreciated.

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From: [e-mail] (Scott T Carpenter)
Subject: modem help
Date: 4 Nov 92 02:03:44 GMT

In a msg on <Nov 02 03:27>, Jim Danley of 1:233/20 writes:

 JD> Run, don't walk, to tsx-11.mit.edu and grab

 JD>     /pub/linux/sources/sbin/gettyps202.tar.Z

 JD> It includes everything you'll need including src, Makefile, man
 JD> pages, and a

Thanks for the reply Jim... I have a friend who can get that for me...

Does anyone know of a dial-up I can use that gives internet FTP access??
I have a USR D/S and so getting off of the dial-up is not a problem... I
just don't have an internet hook-up. If ANYONE has any tips or hints as
to how I can either get a hook-up (I know they are pretty expensive
though) or or get a dial-up I'd love to hear from you...

Scott

 * Origin: Fascination Street  (1:109/70.899)

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From: [e-mail] (Carl vonLoewenfeldt)
Subject: make (SLS 0.98) not operating properly
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:01:30 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Carl vonLoewenfeldt)

In a previous note I commented on rebuilding GhostView (still no replies
to that query.)
In the process of making GhostView I noticed that if I re-executed make,
ALL objects
(*.o files) would be rebuilt, even those which were older than their
respective source
files.

Similarly, when I executed "make install", instead of execiting the
install step of the
makefile, make began to rebuild the objects again.!

(Yes, I was using a Makefile that came with GhostView, and yes, the
dependencies and
execution steps looked to be defined properly).

Anybody experience similar make problems under SLS 0.98? Anybody have a fix?

Carl vonLoewenfeldt

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From: [e-mail] (REMACLE YANNIK)
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: [e-mail] (REMACLE YANNIK)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:17:09 GMT

help

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From: [e-mail] (Little Kenny Hamer)
Subject: How to set up Minicom to respond to Non-Root users
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:00:28 GMT

I have finally decided it is a good idea to not log in all the time as
root...  Too easy to make mistakes.  Unfortunately, I can only use Minicom
as root.  I have put my non-root account info in the minicom.users file,
and the permissions all seem to be set correctly.  When I type

minicom

as any normal user, I get the humurous but not very informative response:

You do not exist. Go away.

Any suggestions????

Thanks,
    -Ken Hamer

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From: [e-mail] (Marios Siormanolakis)
Subject: Re: SLS install in 2 MB
Date: 6 Nov 1992 08:42:23 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Todd Walk) writes:
|> I've got the SLS version and when I do a "doinstall" it tells me
|> I'm out of memory (I've only got 2 MB).
|>
|> Is there anyway to get around this?
|> (I'm not going to buy more memory until it gets back to at least
|> reasonable prices.)
|>
|>
|>                                      Todd Walk
|>                                      [e-mail]
|>

I've had the same problem.
My solution:

1. create Linux partition as mentioned in README (eg /dev/hda2)
2. additional create a swap partition (eg /dev/hda3)
   change type to 82 (Linux Swap)
   I created a 4MB swap partition
3. reboot
4. mkswap /dev/hda3 BLOCKS
5. swapon /dev/hda3
6. mkfs /dev/hda2 BLOCKS
7. doinstall /dev/hda2

Don't forget to add the following swap entry to /etc/fstab after booting from HD:
/dev/hda3       none    swap

This worked for me.
Hope this helps

Marios
--
Marios Siormanolakis
University of Karlsruhe, Germany
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: SLS-Permission-Drama (elm/mail)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:53:22 GMT

[e-mail] (Michael Will) writes:

|Yes, possible, but it still leaves the question, why this should not work:

|drwxrwxr-x   2 root     mail          192 Nov  5 01:07 mail

|elm and fastmail and newmail and printmail and wnewmail are of group mail,
|elm is sgid. why can't it write into the mail-directory then?

|Confused, Michael Will
And confused I was - after setting the group right it did work ;-)

So here is the answer: assign group mail to all mail-programs and to the
mail-spool-dir...

Thank you for your help,

Michael Will

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Will)
Subject: Re: compiling ghostscript/view
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:55:00 GMT

[e-mail] (Michael Will) writes:
|/bin/sh <_temp_
|ld: No such file or directory for libsocket.a
|make: *** [gs] Error 1
|#
|Why this?
Because I where so stupid (but why should I give up, if all seems so
stupid? [depeche mode])

After taking unix-gcc.mak as Makefile it worked well, only one thing
does not make me happy - the executable is larger than one MB ;-)

What have I to write to the Makefile to make it use shared-libs,
or jumptables, or whatever is most useful?=

I would be interested in any hints ;-)

eMail is fine...

Err, and before I forget: ghostview I compiled after some nice person gave
me the hint to uncomment the definition of sys_errlist in any *.c-file
the compiler complained about (2 or 3).

It worked like a champ then..

Greetings (and thanks 4 your help) Michael Will

|Someone told me it should "make" without trouble on linux.

|Ghostview failed as well:
|# make
|gcc -fwritable-strings -fomit-frame-pointer  -O2 -m386 -DNO_ASM   -I/usr/X386/include  -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE      -Dlinux  -DFUNCPROTO=11 -DNARROWPROTO -DNON_BLOCKING_IO  -DSELFILE -DHOME_ON_DEMAND   -c misc.c -o misc.o
|misc.c:61: conflicting types for `sys_errlist'
|/usr/include/errno.h:8: previous declaration of `sys_errlist'
|make: *** [misc.o] Error 1

|So what?

|Greetings, Michael Will

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From: [e-mail] (Sami-Pekka Hallikas)
Subject: Re: UUCP/SMAIL/ETC.. Needed for Linux
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:54:57 GMT

|I need smail for Linux. Also I need some news reader like rn or nn.
|If someone have these or know where I can get it (via ftp), or he/he
|could send it to me uucoded.

Thanks for all, But I don't need any of these, because I heard those can be
downloaded from sunsite.unc.edu.




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Crossposted-To: alt.graphics,comp.graphics,misc.books.technical,alt.books.technical,misc.forsale.wanted,misc.wanted,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.other
From: [e-mail] (David Halliwell)
Subject: Re: BOOK WANTED: Graphics Programming for the 8514/A
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:30:41 GMT

[e-mail] () writes:
|I'm looking for the following book:

|Graphics Programming for the 8514/A
|by Jake Richter and Bud Smith
|published by M&T Books.

|The book has been out of print for about 6 months.  If you have a copy and
|are willing to sell it, OR if you know of a bookstore that still has
|it in stock, please e-mail me at '[e-mail]'

    With it being out of print for six months, that would explain why it
took from June to October for my local bookstore to get it for me. As a
result, I am unlikely to want to sell it to you, but I have the good news
that Richter has written a new book about the XGA adapter that is supposed
to also cover the 8514/A. I just got my hands on that book a week or two
ago, and haven't read through it yet. If you want, I can get the exact
title, ISBN, etc, for you. (It is at home, and I'm not.)

Dave Halliwell
Department of Geography
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta

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From: [e-mail] (John B. Lee)
Subject: Problem installing Linux )Par(part II)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:21:29 GMT


Wow, I actually got a file system made on my hard drive.  Now to
get the install script going.  What! No istnstall script!
I can't moun the drive either.  And when I do mount it (I'm stilll
on the floppy) I can't umount!  Can anybody send me a copy of the
install script?  E-mail me at [e-mail]

John Lee
####
--
John Lee
President of Simplistics Software
Internet: [e-mail]
          [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Kraehe)
Subject: Cobol
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 10:37:00 GMT

Hy folks,

in my opinion Linux ist the best *nix on market, I'm playing with it since
januar (0.12) and using it since Mai (0.96a+X11) for writing manuals and
mail/news with MausNet. It's the perfect programmers enviroment, small and
quick. I've all the languages I need (GCC, Tile-Forth, p2c) and an X11 witch
is much better than ISC or ODT.

But now I've a great problem : I've to support a programm witch is written
in Cobol :-( Even that I dont have any plan about cobol. I dont know any
cobol witch is for public domain, so a can only play with it when I'am
connectet via modem :-((((

So : Did anybody know a Cobol witch is written in C an is either PD or
     CopyLeft :-)

By Michael

PS : Please reply directly to <[e-mail]>

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