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Linux-Activists Digest #489, Volume #3            Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:45:15 EST

Contents:
  Re: help with pcomm and rz (Emmet P. Gray)
  Looking for Jim Wenzel (Andrew F Gunnesch)
  Re: (*) ##Graphic Cards supported by Linux## (Juhana Kouhia)
  Re: Linux/386BSD on Compaq Deskpro 386/25 (Doug Anson)
  SLS bug warning (Peter MacDonald)
  Re: Some interesting Novice Questions (not found in FAQ) (James Michael Chacon)
  Re: MAXTOR (Matt Welsh)
  Re: Some interesting Novice Questions (not found in FAQ) (Jonathan Magid)
  Re: Do I have to clear DOS partition? (James Michael Chacon)
  Re: Olvwm: Anybody played with it? (Operator (Phil/Dylan))
  UUCP/SMAIL/ETC.. Needed for Linux (Sami-Pekka Hallikas)
  Re: TeX/xdvi Question. (Johan Whlin)
  Re: DVI program for Epson 9- or 24-pin printer? (Steven McKay)
  GETTYDEF/UUCP Help Needed! ("William L. Mullica")
  Re: MAXTOR ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail] (Emmet P. Gray)
Subject: Re: help with pcomm and rz
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:19:45 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Hymie!) writes:
|i'm using pcomm 1.2.4 and rz 1.21 05-16-87 on my machine.  i can receive
|zmodem with no problem, but i can't get pcomm to return to terminal
|mode after the receive is complete.  i looked through the docs, and
|didn't see anything other than 'hit return to continue.'
|
|does anyone else have this problem?  do i need a different rz? compile
|options?  i really don't want to switch back to minicom - pcomm is much
|more pleasant, i think...

Just for your information, the current version of Pcomm is v2.0.1
(meaning version 2.0 at patch level 1).  Patch #2 will be coming out in
a few days...

Pcomm v2.0 was sent to the moderator of comp.sources.unix on 20 Jul 92,
but I don't expect it to appear there any time soon.  Patch #1 was
posted to comp.sources.bugs.

Unfortunately, my normal archive site is down (and probably won't be
back, at least not for that purpose), so I've placed the code in the
/tmp/pcomm directory on ftp.uu.net.

Emmet P. Gray                           US Army, HQ III Corps & Fort Hood
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                                        Fort Hood, TX 76544-5057

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From: [e-mail] (Andrew F Gunnesch)
Subject: Looking for Jim Wenzel
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 12:38:48 EST

I've been going through some data and found that I lost Jim's
email address.  I need to contact him.  Jim, if you're reading
this or anybody else who knows his email address, please let
me know asap.

--andrew
--
Andrew F. Gunnesch           /-\     "I disapprove of what you say, but I will
[e-mail]  |   |  __   __           __    defend to the death
==> Evil CAEN sysadmin <==  |===| |__| |  | |   |   |  |   your  right to  say
 What?  I just work here    |   | |    |__| |__ |__ |__|   it."     --Voltaire

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From: [e-mail] (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: (*) ##Graphic Cards supported by Linux##
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:20:18 GMT


In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Frank Klemm) writes:
|
|Which graphic card are currently supported by Linux. Which information
|is neccesary to support a special graphic mode. First a function initializing
|the selected mode... and then???

I read subject-lines first from this newsgroup, then I
read interesting announces and periodical postings.

If you request something, would you please use '?'-characters
in the subject line? Or use question-type sentence in the subject
line (for example, "What GC are supported..")?


The subject "(*) ##Graphic Cards supported by Linux##"
does look like the article contains a list of graphics cards.


Juhana Kouhia

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd
From: [e-mail] (Doug Anson)
Subject: Re: Linux/386BSD on Compaq Deskpro 386/25
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:43:40 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (peter da silva) writes:
|> I'm considering buying a used Compaq Deskpro 386/25. I'll be using a Maxtor
|> XT4380E or Miniscribe 9380E with an as yet undetermined ESDI controller. Has
|> anyone run Linux or 386BSD on a similar platform? What sort of controller
|> would work best in this environment (don't say SCSI, I have a good deal on
|> the drive)? What sort of things should I be watching out for?
|> --
|> % Peter da Silva % 77487-5012 % [phone] % Har du kramat din varg idag?
|> (<<VV$@\\$'&O 9$O%'$LT$&$"V6"$&$<4$?'&$ #I&&?$=$444@)24 24 scale newpath/P true
|> def 3 21 moveto{dup 36 eq{pop/P P not def}{dup 7 and 4 sub exch 56 and 8 div 4
|> sub P{rlineto}{rmoveto}ifelse}ifelse}forall stroke showpage %          `-_-'

I have 386BSD :) working fine on a Compaq Deskpro 386/20 with their standard
ESDI controller an a miniscribe drive. I did have some problems making a custom
partition for swap but the standard install works fine.

I may have goofed the custom installation attempt -- I still dunno what went
wrong or why -- the jest of it was that, after installing a custom partition
(20 Mb swap, / and /usr partitions...) and transfered the Fixit floppy (std
distr), the machine would partially boot off of the hard drive (you'd see the
banner, all the interfaces up to and including npx0 but then nothing else).

I am currently running the standard install configuration very nicely.

Doug
--
===========================================
Doug Anson
Internet: [e-mail]
Phone:    [phone]
FAX:      [phone]
SNAIL:    Landmark Graphics Corporation LGC
          15150 Memorial Drive
          Houston, TX 77079
===========================================

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From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: SLS bug warning
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:12:36 GMT

Ooops.   It seems the last patch to SLS is causing a permissions
problem.  Namely, "permission denied" all over the place for non
root.  The solution?

        chmod go+r /.

Sorry.  I will try to fix it in the dist, asap.

Peter


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From: [e-mail] (James Michael Chacon)
Subject: Re: Some interesting Novice Questions (not found in FAQ)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 12:01:28 -0600

[e-mail] (Dennis Dingeldein) writes:

|Hi!
|Here are some question of a Linux-novice. Please post me your
|opinion(s), even if you want to answer just one question.
|Every mail is apprechiated, if there is a large echo I'll summarize.

|1) Would you state that Linux is good enough to buy a PC just to run
|   Linux/X11 on it ?

Yes, depending on the applications you need to use it for. If you
are just needing word processing I don't know. But, if you need a
multi-tasking multi-user environment I would have to say yes.

|2) Is a 15'' Monitor (1024x768ni, >80Hz) "good" enough to read the X11
|   default fonts of X11 ? Or is 15'' a pain ?

15" is getting low, but should be fine for reading the fonts on. Hell, at
school with the nice 16" monitors we have for the IPC's I use the 6x10
font and love it.

|3) Does Linux support Local Bus Architectures ?

Depending on what you put on the bus yes. I have heard some video or
disk controllers have problems though.

|4) There is a S3 X Server 0.0. Is it a good idea to buy a S3 card
|   or will this server work only with some (a few) S3 cards, but not with
|   the most/all cards ? (the low speed of 0.0 would be no problem, I believe
|   that will change in the next months)

Right now from what I understand the S3 server only works with a few cards.
This should change as more of these cards become common in default setups.

|5) Is it a good idea to use one singe efs-partition of lets say 200 MB
|   for all the Linux stuff ? Are there disadvantages for this efs solution
|   (efs=extended file system) compared to a set of "usual fs" partitions ?

I caution against using the efs for any important data. I used it
for a while for my root and /usr partitions and found that when put under
heavy usage. (Lots of compiling usually) that race conditions would show
up where blocks were getting missallocated and directory entrys were
getting bad entrys.

|6) I noticed that mkefs failed ("not enough memory") to make a 160MByte
|   efs on a 486 with 4MB memory. Is there a work around (besides using
|   another partition as swap partition...). 140MB worked well (as I
|   remember)

Don't know why this would happen with mkefs.

|Dennis
|--

James

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From: [e-mail] (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: MAXTOR
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:03:07 GMT

In article <jrsellec.720951453@syzygy> [e-mail] (91066720 j r selleck) writes:
| was wondering if Linux gets along with a 213 Mb Maxtor Hd.
|
| Any way I was looking at getting a MAXTOR HD  it is 213 Megs and has a 15 ms access time..`

I use a Maxtor 7213A IDE 15ms 213 meg drive in a Linux box with no problems.
Others may have reported trouble with this drive; the box this drive is in is
a 386SX/16mhz, 4 megs ram.

mdw

--
Matt Welsh    [e-mail]        [phone]
Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
  "She's like jelly roll, like sculpture!"

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From: [e-mail] (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: Some interesting Novice Questions (not found in FAQ)
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:58:08 GMT

In article <dingelde.720952611@jocki> [e-mail] (Dennis Dingeldein) writes:
|1) Would you state that Linux is good enough to buy a PC just to run
|   Linux/X11 on it ?

It was the only reason I bought a PC.  Until Linux, I had no plans to buy
a micro-computer (until I could afford a Next that is.)

|
|2) Is a 15'' Monitor (1024x768ni, >80Hz) "good" enough to read the X11
|   default fonts of X11 ? Or is 15'' a pain ?

Depends your VAR rating (Video Anal Retension). I make do with a good
CTX 14'' monitor, and i am quite pleased with the picture I get... a 17''
would be better though, and I would make the jump to 17'' and forget 15''.
IMHO the difference betwen 14 and 15 is not terribly significant.
|
|3) Does Linux support Local Bus Architectures ?

The answer to this for both IDE and video seems to be an overwhelming yes.
I have yet to see any reports of troubles, and have seen many reports of
success, including my own system which has a local bus ET4000 card.
|
|4) There is a S3 X Server 0.0. Is it a good idea to buy a S3 card
|   or will this server work only with some (a few) S3 cards, but not with
|   the most/all cards ? (the low speed of 0.0 would be no problem, I believe
|   that will change in the next months)

As you say the S3 server is still in progress and seems to be in the
process of many speedups (when putting it on sunsite, I looked at it briefly
to see that much of the 8514 code can be improved to take advantage of the S3.
But as the authors say, it will never support Diamond cards under their
tutoring...
|
|5) Is it a good idea to use one singe efs-partition of lets say 200 MB
|   for all the Linux stuff ? Are there disadvantages for this efs solution
|   (efs=extended file system) compared to a set of "usual fs" partitions ?

Hmmm. This may be a religious question.  I use two partitions.  One for system
level utilities (/bin, /usr/bin, /etc). This is for purposes of speed and
reliability.  My user partition (/u) where my own directory is is extended,
for reasons of having a big partition and to have long file name support.


jem.

--
Jonathan Magid     [e-mail]       SunSite Administrator
Virtual pizza Delivery (tm)::faxed in 30 cycles or less or you get it
========================================FREE!!!=======================

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From: [e-mail] (James Michael Chacon)
Subject: Re: Do I have to clear DOS partition?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 12:09:28 -0600

[e-mail] (Jerry van Waardenberg) writes:

|Hi,

|I'm just new to this newsgroup and this is probably a FAQ, but anyway:

|I have a harddisk with C: and D: DOS partitions and I want to install Linux
|on the D-partition. Can I install Linux *WITHOUT* removing the data from
|DOS partition C:? (I know when I run the DOS fdisk program, all data on all
|partitions will be lost. Is this also true for the Linux fdisk program?)

|Can someone mail me a FAQ list?

|Thanx!

|Jerry

As long as you don't have to repartition your drive, the dos stuff on
C: should be fine. I would make a backup just to be safe though. With the
fdisk from linux, you can change the id on the partition without changing
the partition tables. This would allow fdisk from linux to correctly
identify your linux partition.

You will have to do an mkfs on your old D: drive to make it work with
linux though, so make sure nothing is on there that you need before doing
this.

I am emailing you the FAQ also.

James


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From: [e-mail] (Operator (Phil/Dylan))
Subject: Re: Olvwm: Anybody played with it?
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:36:50 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Bill Parquet) writes:

|> Before I undertake re-compiling olvwm, is there a version already out there
|> that uses the new X386 2.1 shared libraries?  (the one i got from sunsite
|> expected libX11.1.1 or something like that)

yes,... I'm running olvwm with X386 2.1 shared libraries although there seems
to
be a very small irritating bug where it doesn't always 'clean' overwrites
correctly
leaving speckles of pixels on the screen,.. it may be a fault of the speedup
code

Phil
=--=

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From: [e-mail] (Sami-Pekka Hallikas)
Subject: UUCP/SMAIL/ETC.. Needed for Linux
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:01:53 GMT

I need smail for Linux. Also I need some news reader like rn or nn.
If someone have these or know where I can get it (via ftp), or he/her
could send it to me uucoded.
                                        Thanx for reading me :-D...

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From: [e-mail] (Johan Whlin)
Subject: Re: TeX/xdvi Question.
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:55:50 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Dean Jansa) writes:
|A quick question to a TeX/xdvi guru:
|
|When I run xdvi on a test.dvi file, I get the following output.
|...
|mv: cannot move `cmmi10.300pk' to `/usr/TeX/lib/tex/fonts/pktmp.94': Permission denied
|...

I have chmod .../tex/fonts and .../mf/macros to 1777 so as to protect the
original files (due to the sticky bit) and let anyone write in it.

I do not like this way of doing things, but it does work.
--
/Johan W}hlin (.. where the } really is an a with a ring above it.. 8))

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From: [e-mail] (Steven McKay)
Subject: Re: DVI program for Epson 9- or 24-pin printer?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:20:00 GMT

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Robert Chen) writes...
|In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] ( Ian Justman ) writes:
|>Has anyone written a DVI program for Epson-compatible 9- or 24-pin
|>printers?  I have access to both and I would like to make use of
|>TeX with them.
|Use dvips and the print it with ghostscript.  Works great.

I haven't used dvips and ghostscript, so I can't tell about those, but
if you want a 9 pin dvi to epson driver, you might look at Beebee's collection
of drivers at science.utah.edu or at ymir.claremont.edu In ymir I believe its
under something like ~/tex/drivers/beebe2_10 or something close.
At science it's under ~/tex/dvi (I think).  You wont need all of it, but you
will need most of the files. It compiles pretty easily, with minor changes.
It assumes the default operating system is unix and bsd. You need unix but not
bsd, so you will have to change a define.

You will also need to compile your own fonts.  I have a script for that if you
need it.
                                             S. McKay
                                             [e-mail]


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From: "William L. Mullica" <[e-mail]>
Subject: GETTYDEF/UUCP Help Needed!
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:57:03 GMT

I am trying to get UUCP working between a Linux machine (Taylor UUCP
1.03) and an SCO Xenix machine. The computers are connected thru their
serial ports at 9600 bps by a 20 ft. null-modem cable.

I can establish a UUCP session and get thru the handshaking OK. However,
shortly after the data transfer begins, the sending (Xenix) machine
starts showing alarm messages (lost connection?) and the transfer times
out and fails. I suspect that my GETTYDEF for the serial line my be at
fault. This is my GETTYDEF line for both systems:

9600# B9600 CS8 CLOCAL # B9600 CS8 SANE -IXON RTSFLOW CLOCAL TAB3
#login: #9600

Is there something wrong here? Can anyone give me a 'proper' GETTYDEF line
for a 9600 bps direct connect line. Could something else be causing the problem?

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Mullica


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: MAXTOR
Date: 5 Nov 1992 19:12:55 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]

In article <jrsellec.720951453@syzygy>, [e-mail] (91066720 j r selleck) writes:
| was wondering if Linux gets along with a 213 Mb Maxtor Hd.
|
| I dont yet have linux or the HD as linux does fit on an 80 MB HD that has only 8 megs left after windows and games... :(  Maybe I should get my priorites right ?!?!?
|
| Any way I was looking at getting a MAXTOR HD  it is 213 Megs and has a 15 ms access time..`
| Thats about all I know about it, but I was hoping someone who uses both could tell me what they think..
|
| James
|
The Maxtor 7213a 213MB hd USED to have problems with non-msdos operating
systems. They have since upgraded the PROMS so that the problems are gone.
Since I still have the old prom version I don't know for sure that it works,
but Maxtor assured me that it does. (They are making me mail return my entire
hard drive for the PROM upgrade! Sucky policy but anyway..) If you want to be
safe when purchasing the drive, on the top side of it there is a label. In the
PCBA column is listed your PROM version. Make sure that the verion is at least
63 something. Mine is 52p1 if that helps any.
        Luckily even though it does have problems they are not such that the
drive had any data loss (That I've noticed yet anyway..) During any drive
operation there are random occurances of "HD Timeout. Reseting HD" or something
like that. It take about 10-20 seconds per timeout and I've gotten as many as a
dozen while starting X windows. Quite annoying, but still usable.
        Hope this helps.
                        Bill Foust
[e-mail]


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