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- Path: sparky!uunet!unislc!erc
- From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
- Subject: Re: uucp/mail/news FAQ
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- References: <1992Nov4.215755.23652@nwnexus.WA.COM>
- Message-ID: <1992Nov5.213820.25611@unislc.uucp>
- Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
- Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:38:20 GMT
- Lines: 61
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- Vince Skahan (vince@halcyon.com) wrote:
-
- : you're not supposed to do this stuff if you're clueless.
- : USENET is not for kiddies.
-
- YES!!!!! Thanks for reiterating this, Vince!
-
- : But you already get HDB if you run Ed Carp's mailpak, which uses the
- : HDB configuration. You don't have to do anything...it's done for you.
- : [...Ed, do I get a royalty every time I tell somebody you did good?...]
-
- Sure, Vince - if anyone ever sends me any money, I'll give you a cut... :)
-
- : Care and feeding of smail is a reasonably non-issue if you grab the
- : smail3.1.28 I provide as part of 'newspak'. I have about 4 lines of
- : total configuration files to set system-specific stuff. The incredible
- : things you *could* do with smail are well-documented in the smail docs
- : and in the comp.mail.smail newsgroup. I asked a question via email to
- : Steve Robbins who provided excellent info that I included when I uploaded
- : newspak (in the smail stuff).
-
- I set up smail 3.1.28 in about an hour - time well spent reading the docs that
- came with it. I groan every time I see someone post a question that is
- covered in the documentation... :(
-
- I can understand someone posting "what does mailpak/newspak/X/<whatever> do
- for me?" before they download it - these packages take time and space to
- download. I can't understand someone posting "I just downloaded mailpak -
- *now* what do I do?" There's a README, and simple instructions on how to
- get it going. For those who want to delve further in the inner workings of
- elm, uucp, or smail, I include all the docs that I received with the respective
- packages, and I'm sure Vince does the same.
-
- : there IS NO system-specific stuff to be done any more.
- : Grab newspak. Grab mailpak. Grab vixcron. type make. Miller Time.
-
- How true! Thanks to Linux and H.J. and all the other folks that have donated
- their time and effort (and $$$, for some - SVGA cards and monitors and SCSI
- cards and drives aren't cheap!), Linux has turned into a system that can give
- the best commercial unixes a run for their money, both in terms of performance
- and in terms of features! It's pretty compatible with most unix systems
- around - no more 200K+ files to feed to patch. :)
-
- : A person getting started running news gets news/mail fed from
- : somewhere. If they have no clue, and they don't try to get a clue, they
- : live with the implications of their lack of action. Everybody is a
- : beginner once. Everybody screws up. No biggie. If a rookie admin
- : doesn't get in touch with his uucp neighbor(s) to help prevent him from
- : screwing up BIG deserves what he/she gets.
-
- I've had my hand slapped by fellow sysadmins more than once, too. Shit
- happens, you know. But if you don't learn from your mistakes, you are bound
- to repeat them. Eventually, you'll piss off all your neighbors, and they'll
- cut you off at the knees. Then, I suppose, they'll be posting about that
- evil Ed and Vince and Linus and H. J. who got them in the mess in the first
- place. :)
- --
- Ed Carp, N7EKG erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com 801/538-0177
- "There is nothing to seek and nothing to find. You're already enlightened, and
- all the words in the world won't give you what you already have. The wise
- seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to becaome aware of what
-