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- From: colby@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Kenneth Colby)
- Subject: Re: Loebner Turing test for Human like conversation
- Message-ID: <1992Nov11.205753.13354@cs.ucla.edu>
- Keywords: Loebner, turing, natural language
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- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 20:57:53 GMT
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- Kehler at Harvard mistakenly thinks from second-hand information
- that all the programs in the Loebner competition were ELIZA-like
- "or worse".
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- Much depends on the level of description being used for likeness
- comparison. All computer programs can be said to be ELIZA-like
- in the sense that at the register transfer level they all involve
- machine language instructions operating on bit vectors. But at
- the top semantic-interpretive level they are quite different in the
- way they function.
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- Our Loebner prize conversational program translates the input into
- a semantic database of conceptual primitives, constructs sets of
- interpretations, selects one for response by various criteria, and
- produces a response that does not use the surface words of the input
- as part of the output. Any one who thinks this is the way ELIZA
- functions is unfamiliar with ELIZA's code as well as with the new
- ideas in conversational language processing - AI/CLP.
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- Raja at Microsoft says conversational programs are for non-mainstream
- AI programmers. Who decides who is "mainstream" and by what metric?
- Head-counting?
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- If mainstream means majority of heads, than remember that mainstream
- physics and chemistry refused to accept the existence of atoms for
- 100 years, mainstream medicine refused to accept the germ theory of
- disease for half a century, and mainstream surgery for 100 years
- until 1980 believed that radical mastectomy was the best treatment for
- breast cancer. Swimming along with the mainstream maybe comforting but it
- may not always be the best place to be if one wants to contribute
- new knowledge.
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- Maybe "mainstream" AI programmers do not construct conversational
- programs because they do not know how to do it (yet).
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- Ken and Pete Colby
- Malibu Artifactual Intelligence Works
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