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- From: drraymon@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Darrell Raymond)
- Subject: Re: Why aren't things like plutonium shipments kept secret?
- Message-ID: <Bxnu66.9vB@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>
- Organization: University of Waterloo
- References: <1dotkuINNek2@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> <1992Nov11.141735.11261@bcrka451.bnr.ca>
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:10:54 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov11.141735.11261@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, mennie@bcrki39.bnr.ca (Bill Mennie 3-4473) writes:
- >
- > In spite of all the propaganda from the Canadian Nuclear Association and
- > others of like mind, nuclear power and nuclear weapons programs have
- > left a terrible legacy for future generations to deal with.
- > .
- > .
- > The burden of proof should be on the
- > developers of potentially polluting or dangerous technologies to prove
- > that they have solutions BEFORE such technologies are introduced on a
- > massive scale.
- > .
- > .
- > The nuclear industry claims to have technical solutions
- > and is frustrated by the politics of "not in my backyard". These
- > politics are just as real as the waste material and any acceptable
- > solution must address them as well. The former Soviet Union and India
- > thought they could solve the political problem by pretending nothing was
- > going on.
- > .
- > .
- > Before we started constructing breeder reactors, the public should have
- > been told of the implications and asked, "Should they be permitted at
- > all?" If the answer was no, we would not be in this dilemma of already
- > having produced the stuff. If the answer was yes, then proper methods
- > should be in place to guarantee safe, reliable handling and shipment.
-
- I understand Bill's frustration and concern over the hazards of nuclear
- power. But the idea that "we" could have "disallowed" this simply by being
- better informed at the beginning is too utopian. The Soviet Union, for
- instance, would have pursued nuclear technology in its own sloppy way in
- the '50s, no matter what "the public" (either its own or the West) said
- about it. This is just one of the political problems that, as Bill correctly
- notes, must be factored into any realistic proposal for a solution. It was
- my impression that the US did not get into breeder reactors in a big way
- for exactly the implications that Bill suggests, but this apparently did
- not stop France and Japan (someone correct me if my facts are wrong).
-
- Putting the burden of proof on developers is also, I think, unrealistic.
- Should BNR have to *prove* that there are no ill effects from computerized
- telephone switching systems before "we" permit their sale (and let's not
- consider only physical effects, how about psychological/sociological ones)?
- And how would they do so, anyway, in the face of really thoroughgoing
- paranoia?
-
- We don't understand anything well enough to *prove* that it will have no
- ill effects, or to prove that our plans for solving (even) the problems we
- know about will survive arbitrary political futures. I agree with Bill
- that a more informed (and participative, cf. the results of the referendum)
- public is essential, but I don't share his view that it would have avoided
- the current mess.
-
- -Darrell.
-