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- From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
- Subject: Re: German MMP Likely for New Zealand (was Re: Prop. rep.)
- Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:01:53 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.010153.11380@actrix.gen.nz>
- References: <1992Nov8.074732.7435@ee.ubc.ca> <1dk6adINN5jb@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> <92313.1825132893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
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- In article <92313.1825132893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
- > There are two systems I like, the first is the transferable ballot where
- > voters list there 1st, 2nd and 3rd choices. First choices are counted on the
- > first count, then if no one receives 50% the lowest candidate is dropped and
- > the second choices of his/her voters are distributed and so on until someone
- > gets 50%. Another alternative is a run-off, a week or two later between the
- > top two candidates.
- >
- > The German system combines PR with a constituency system. Their is a two part
- > ballot, on the first part you vote for a party, on the second part you vote
- > for your constituency MP. Half the seats of the House (applying it to a
- > Canadian structure) would be made up of constituencey MPs. The other half
- > would be distributed to the various parties receiving more than 5% of the
- > vote in such a way that the OVER ALL composition of the House is proportional
- > to the votes each party recieves. For example, say there's an election where
- > the Liberals win all the constituency seats with 50% of the vote (as happened
- > in New Brunswick a few years ago) with the Tories and NDP getting 30% and
- > 20% respectively. A 100 seat House would look like this
-
- In 1986, a Royal Commission set up to look into ways of improving New
- Zealand's electoral system unanimously endorsed the German system (MMP) in a
- slightly modified form for implementation in here.
-
- The politicians tried to bury the recommendation - because the two-party club
- was threatened by it. But after much agitation, we finally has a referendum on
- changing the voting system.
-
- 88% of New Zealand voters voted for the two forms of PR on offer in a
- multiple-choice ballot. MMP won 70% overall support.
-
- Support for the implementation of MMP has increased since the referendum and
- it appears likely that the second referendum - between MMP and the present
- system at the 1993 elections - will be decide on MMP.
-
- The 1993 elections are likely to be the last under the first-past-the-post
- system held in New Zealand.
-
- It took over 20 years of agitation by reformers to get to this point - and new
- Zealand is a small country. Any move to PR in Canada would be a fight NOT for
- the faint of heart.
-
- Steve (one who knows).
-
-
- --
- Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
- Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz | for proportional representation. It
- withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz | looks like we may get a more
- **** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! **** | democratic system "real soon now".
-