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- Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 22:22:00 PST
- Sender: Nota Bene List <NOTABENE@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
- From: William Bodiford <IBFBWMB@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
- Subject: Re: Hazarding the Customs
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- Sarah Higley
- Re: "the help program can't find its path to my reconfiguired directional
- keys . . ."
- Did you also reconfigure directional keys in the HELP section of the
- keyboard table? I haven't had time to install NB4 yet, but in NB3 at least
- it is labeled: table=MENU+CTRL+SHIFT+ALT
- I cannot speak from experience, but I assume that this section assigns the
- key values to be recognized by the help program.
- Good Luck. --William Bodiford (ibfbwmb@uclamvs)
-
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- > Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 23:58:29 -0500
- > Reply-To: Nota Bene List <NOTABENE@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
- > Sender: Nota Bene List <NOTABENE@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
- > From: "Sarah L. Higley" <slhi@TROI.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU>
- > Subject: Hazarding the Customs
- > To: "Mark J. Pisaro" <IABOSPI@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>,
- > William Bodiford <IBFBWMB@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>,
- > Mark Infusino <IJA4MHI@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>,
- > "SHIRLEY ARORA ILX3ARO@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU" <ILX3ARO@MVS.OAC.UCLA.E
- DU>
- >
- > Well, I've been there and back. Nothing like some healthy experimentation.
- > The x/ switch does work, and I was able to move my editing commands from
- > the arrow/number keys to the control-alphanumeric keyboard, but I would
- > warn anyone trying to do the same that there are some not so obvious pitfalls.
- > I'm still trying to straighten them out. Perhaps someone could give me some
- > much needed advice.
- >
- > The delicate thing is that I am moving functions that ask for alternate
- > keyboards (like ov,l,r; ov,l,c etc.) to the arrow keys and this has proved
- > somewhat treacherous. For one thing, these keys are not really recognized
- > in the unshifted table, so that while hitting PgUp now gives me the beautiful
- > Greek keyboard, once in Greek, hitting 7,Home does not restore me to English.
- > The keyboard in Greek will recognize the edit commands now transferred to
- > ctrl e,f,d, etc., but not the commands in the unshifted (what do you call it?
- > the default?) keyboard for the arrow/number keys, so you're stuck. What I
- > did try, for I was expecting this difficulty-- you look at the nblingua.kbd
- > layout and you see that the arrow/number keys all have duplicate commands in
- > their default states-- was to go in and change each 7,Home key for Slavic,
- > Greek and Hebrew to ov,r,l, but this was a dismal failure and confused my
- > keyboard so thoroughly that F9 seemed to think it was a block delete.
- > Scrapped that-- reloaded my keyboard and this time redesignated ctrl [ as
- > ov,r,l-- and VOILA, it worked. I thought I was home free. Here is what
- > I didn't foresee: in redesignating the command functions on the number/arrow
- > keys, I seem to have blocked the smooth operation of the F1 help windows.
- > I flip into Help and try to push the menus down the line with the remaining
- > gray arrow keys-- you know, the ones between your enter key and the arrow/
- > number keys-- and they beep, shudder and freeze. Essentially, they won't
- > budge. They take their commands, somehow, from the functions assigned to
- > the arrow/number keys. Why they won't respond to the gray arrow keys is
- > what I am asking you experts. Nor will they respond, of course, to my
- > new directional keys, ctrl d and ctrl s.
- >
- > Sigh. It looks as though trying to strip the arrow/number keys of their
- > original functions was a mistake. I may have to find room on the ctrl
- > alphanumeric for about twelve displaced control keys. With all this
- > reduplication of key functions, this is exasperating. I have the gray
- > arrow keys which do the same as the arrow/number keys. But they aren't
- > the same, obviously, to the help program. The help program can't find
- > it's path to my reconfigured directional keys in control mode, but I can't
- > figure out why the gray keys won't work.
- >
- > I will probably have to resituate all the functions I moved to the arrow/
- > numbers to places on the control alphanumeric-- I said that; I'm repeating
- > myself in my fatigue, here--; I've noticed what looks like some redundancy
- > in some of the commands. Ctrl P and Ctrl M do exactly the same thing, it
- > seems, as Ctrl Gray +, although they are configured differently. Can I
- > remove some of these commands if they are indeed redundant? Those of you
- > who know the keyfunctions well; what keys can I get rid of? Ctrl Y and
- > Ctrl D both seem to delete blocks. Control Z (44=ov,r,g) doesn't seem to
- > do a thing. Didn't someone ask about this command earlier? Can I delete
- > it? What is it supposed to do and why isn't it doing it? I think there
- > are enough semi-colons making room for me, but barely. I might have to
- > make some tough decisions, here, but I wouldn't want to end up disabling
- > something else further down the line, and not knowing what it is I had
- > done.
- >
- > Thanks in advance. I believe, that if this gets all its parts
- > put into strategic places, it can be pure MAGIC.
- >
- > Sarah Higley
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