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- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:56:30 EST
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- From: "Stephen J. Kotchen" <CASK@CATCC.BITNET>
- Subject: deaf wish
- In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of TUE 10 NOV 1992 09:00:00 EST
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- Lew and Bosco
-
- I am second to Joseph. I am tired of Lew's and Bosco's pervert. I am
- truly sick of the Cochlear Madness. Deaf people have accomphish with
- Their life. They still don't get it yet. I guess they are perfectly
- example "Deafphobia". I am in hurrying now and will lecture on this
- issue soon.
-
- --Stephen Kotchen
-
-
- > Ref: Joseph's posting of Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:21:11 EST
- >
- > >It is just sad - very sad - that you continue to think that deafness is one
- > >of the causes of these problems and that deafness is an added burden to a
- > >person who has it, family, and society. But, again, you have the right
- > >to think the way you want to think. You have the right to set up your
- > >system of values to guide your thoughts and life. I do likewise. So...
- > >live and let live.
- > >
- > > Joseph P. Riolo
- > > <riolo@pica.army.mil>
- >
- > The real sadness, Joseph, is in wishing for a *baby* to be
- > born deaf. You are talking about a *person*, by which I assume
- > you mean an *adult* who has overcome the burden of deafness.
- > However much you deny it, deafness *is* a burden. Moreover,
- > we all know that this burden can be overcome, even to the point
- > where it is no longer too much of a burden, but this is not
- > the point Lew is getting at. He is talking about a *baby* that
- > is just beginning life. There is a good chance that the child will
- > sail through life if it has perfect hearing and will be able to fit
- > into both the hearing and Deaf world. So why feel the need to confine
- > the child only to the Deaf world by wishing it is born deaf? It
- > makes absolutely no sense at all.
- >
- > I can't think of a worse thought than for a parent to wish for
- > a deaf child. I'm sorry, but it absolutely, utterly sickens me that Deaf
- > people should be so selfish that they want to create children
- > that fit their own image and culture, to the exclusion of others.
- >
- > I've rewritten this posting a copule of times...the originals
- > were unprintable, even in rot13. :-) But this topic is very sensitive,
- > and it does arouse a great deal of passion and anger in people.
- >
- > Bosco.
- >
- > Bosco Keown,
- > CICS/6000 Development, | VNET : KEOWN at WINVMC
- > IBM UK Laboratories, Ltd., | IBMIPNET : keown@harpo.hursley.ibm.com
- > Hursley Park, | Internet : keown@vnet.ibm.com
- > Winchester, England. | BITNET : KEOWN at VNET
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