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- From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
- Newsgroups: ba.general
- Subject: Re: Attractive Nuisance (was: East Bay Regional Parks/dog restrictions)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov8.195725.10214@eagercon.com>
- Date: 8 Nov 92 19:57:25 GMT
- References: <1992Nov7.031101.7904@netcom.com>
- Sender: root@eagercon.com (Operator)
- Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
- Organization: Eager Consulting
- Lines: 49
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- In article 7904@netcom.com, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
- >In article <184161@pyramid.pyramid.com> lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
- >
- >>In article <1992Nov6.013614.2737@eagercon.com> eager@eagercon.com writes:
- >>>First, lets knock down some straw men. The rights of property owners have
- >>>never been constant, for centuries or otherwise. They are continually being
- >>>refined and defined by courts. This is not new.
- >
- >> You left off the concept that, even in the United States, a
- >> property owner does NOT have full and exclusive rights to
- >> private property.
- >>
- >> There have been several Supreme Court decisions that establish that a
- >> private property owner may have to give UP rights if there is
- >> a national interest at stake. This has been used to obtain
- >> property rights for freeways, railroads, etc. etc.
- >>
- >> There are also other restrictions on private rights due to water
- >> rights, timber rights, mineral rights, etc. etc.
- >>
- >> Some of these are national issues, some are local issues. There
- >> are even sunshine laws, zonings, SID's etc. etc. that clearly
- >> establish precedents that the rights of individual owners are
- >> ALWAYS subordinate to public safety, beauty, issues and/or the
- >> rights of neighbors.
- >>
- >> Not that (Michael Zimmers) has a clue about any of this.
- >
- >If you weren't so busy being obnoxious, you'd have had time to read
- >a post I made last week identifying some of the very things that
- >you mentioned.
-
- Actually, Michael, you mentioned only one of these in your posts. You
- mentioned exactly four items: eminent domain, police action, condemnation,
- and easements.
-
- >
- >Why are you liberals so hostile to those who question your right
- >to interfere with our lives?
-
- Lon isn't hostile to people who have questions, only to people who
- haven't a clue. Actually, I don't think he is hostile to anybody, you
- just don't like having people point out that your arguments ignore the
- real world.
-
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