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- From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
- Subject: Re: Programming
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- Date: 15 Nov 92 11:44:11 PST
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- In <1e526iINNn1k@ub.d.umn.edu>, rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) wrote:
- > In article <mwm.2n9x@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us> mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:
- >
- > >Just to clarify this, I'm talking about AMOS the package, as opposed to
- > >AMOS the lanugage. There may not be anything in the language that
- > >causes all programs to have these bugs (since the only definition of
- > >the LANGUAGE is in the PACKAGE, I don't know). This doesn't mean the
- > >PACKAGE can avoid them.
- >
- > And what I'm saying is that AMOS is not buggy. Some of what you call
- > bugs are necessary for the certain tricks AMOS allows (such as having
- > more sprites on the screen than is normally allowable.
-
- And if you can't disable that behavior when it's not needed, then it's
- a BUG.
-
- > As an example of this, please refer to the PD amos demos.
-
- I went and double checked the entire FISH collection for anything that
- said AMOS in the description. They all had bogus behavior, even things
- that did nothing but draw static pictures.
-
- > As I have stated, these are not necessarily bugs. I totally understand
- > your point (and I'm glad we've both settled down over this). One should
- > not discount a language (or package) unless one has extensive research
- > saying that the language has NO merit (which is what your arguments
- > seemed to be stating about AMOS).
-
- The argument is that it's not possible to produce a multitasking
- friendly, system-compliant applications in AMOS. That means it has no
- merit, except for things where such behavior is acceptable - games.
-
- > BTW, I would still be interested in the list of alternative languages
- > you have (for researh sake- not to mention it might help that person
- > whose post I was orignally responding to).
-
- If you can live with "must run on screens it opened things",
- AmigaVision is reasonable. For doing general-purpose applications, try
- CanDo. There are a slew of other applications builders that can play
- animations and move things on the screen, and they all have different
- limitations: Thinker, HyperBook, UBC (or whatever it's called this
- week). All the ones I've looked at can produce applications that don't
- interfere with other applications on the machine.
-
- <mike
-