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- From: cotrozzi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Massimo Cotrozzi)
- Subject: Re: A Solicitation for Opinions
- References: <23OCT199222385881@misvax.mis.arizona.edu> <6035@tuegate.tue.nl> <Bx6oLy.L7z@minerva1.bull.it>
- Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:54:07 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Nov6.085407.20070@ghost.dsi.unimi.it>
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- alexb@minerva1.bull.it (Alessandro Bottonelli) writes:
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- >johan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Johan Wevers) writes:
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- >>kaplan@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (RayK) writes:
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- >>>A Solicitation for Opinions:
- >>>Is it advisable to allow members of the computer
- >>>underground or convicted computer criminals to participate
- >>>in public, security-related discussions?
-
- >>Of course!! Because:
-
- >> 1. Anyone has the right to tell his or her opinion, and
- >> 2. If the security community wants to understand the underground,
- >> talking with them is the only way. If they don't, they will
- >> be working on a subject of which they don't understand much.
- >> And that's not so smart.
- >>--
-
- >Agree, and I would go beyond that. Computer 'underground' representatives
- >should actively give their input to security plans and activities and they
- >should be listened to. The only issue is how to motivate them to do such
- >a thing. In many cases that shoudln't be difficult, most computer 'criminals'
- >love to tell you HOW they did it, if they can be guaranteed immunity ...
-
- I don't believe most of them will tell you how they did it, since they may
- have spent weeks in trying and, if they tell you, you will fix the hole,
- closing up the playground.
-
- Here in Italy is no use talking about immunity in this field as there's
- no law regarding intrusion ( as far as I know ).
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- As was said long time ago, most of the Bad Guys are not so bad,and finally
- ( at least here in Italy ) they are given a job as a System Security Admin
- ( don't want to offend any of the Admins ) so they don't tell you anything.
-
-
- --
- -- Massimo Cotrozzi Computer Science Dept. Milan Italy
- cotrozzi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it +39-2-27201253
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