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- From: cacst9+@pitt.edu (Cecelia A Clancy)
- Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
- Subject: More on Wiesel
- Message-ID: <9217@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
- Date: 6 Nov 92 10:25:52 GMT
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- Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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- Originator: cacst9@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu
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-
- Recently our MAN from haaaaaa-vaaaaaad sarcastically stated
- that I had been working on some secret project with
- Wlie Wiesel, to which I responded that I would have difficulty
- imagining myself working with Elie Wiesel on anything because
- of a quote I had heard attributed to him that allegedly puts
- forth some pretty bad anti-Germanic hatred.
-
- I had heard the alleged quote in the IHReview literature, and
- if I had heard it ONLY there, then I would have looked upon
- it with skeptism. I had previoulsy though that I had first
- heard it from a Pitt professor whom I highly respect, so I
- have been, for about the past year and a half, been taking
- that quote VERY serioulsy and delt with it by just ignoring
- Wiesel, whereever taht was possible.
-
- Then Fein (from still-segregated haaaaaaaa-vaaaaaaaaad) stuck
- Wiesel right in my face in a hostile way and I just could not
- ignore Wiesel anymore.
-
- So I set out to try to track down just when and where and in
- what context he had made that alleged quote. My search led
- me back to the Pitt professor from whom I had thought I had first
- heard of it from. However, he has no knowledge of such a
- statement from Wiesel. In fact, he thinks the alleged quote
- is entirely fabricated, for the Wiesel he knows is somebody
- who is very much in favor of reconcilliation between the Germans
- and the Jews and that it would be entirely out of character
- for Wiesel to make some virulently anti-Germanic statement.
-
- It is also possible that at some time and at some place, Wiesel
- really DID make the alleged statement, but not in keeping with his
- overall outlook. It might also actually appear somewhere in
- some piece of his writing, but when read in context does not have
- the anti-Germanic meaning it appears to carry when quoted in
- isolation.
-
- It is a common Carto-ist IHReview tactic to take
- something a perosn really said, pull it out of context, then put
- it in among their own words (on other words, put it in their own
- specially-designed context), and thus comming up with a finished
- that makes the origianl speaker/author appear to be saying something
- altogether different that he/she REALLY had said or meant.
-
- By this tactic, Carto/IHReview has made it, for example, to appear
- that Yehudah Bauer is an IHR-type Revisionist, which he is not.
-
- And at the recent IHReview Conference, Mark Weber (with Carto's
- knowledge and approval - maybe it was even all Carto's idea)
- read protions of a letter I had written to him as he was introducing
- one of the speakers. By such "selective editing", Carto and
- Weber totally misrepresented me. They used my statement for
- something I would have never used it myself - to drive more wedges
- between people who believe in the Holocaust and people who don't.
- Anybody who has been reading my posts for a long time knows that
- I am somebody who wishes to knock out such wedges. If anybody
- who was there at that recent IHReview Conference - to include the
- speaker Weber was introducing - wishes to see the FULL TEXT of
- my letter to Weber, I would be glad to provide it. If any of
- you attendees read alt.revisionism and see this (or if somebody
- else prints is/saves it and shows it to you), I would most encourage
- you to contact me by the means cited at the end ot this article.
- This offer, of course, extends to ANYBODY who wishes to see the
- full text. Weber's introduction to that speaker will included
- in the tapes of the Conference that will later be offered for sale
- to the general public.
-
- So it is quite possible that the first place I had seen
- the alleged Wiesel quote might have been in some IHReview literature
- I had been reading at the same time I was taking a class with
- the professor I had mentioned several paragraphs above, and thus,
- my memory had "mistagged" HIS CLASS as the source instead. So
- now I too an quite speptical and am entirely convinced that that
- quote in no way represents the Elie Wiesel of today.
-
- I have to now publicly apologize to him for unwittingly spreading
- the idea (that IHReview so desperately wishes to spread) that
- Wiesel is some terrible anti-German bigot.
-
- In searching through my IHReview stuff, I found it said by Tom
- Marcellus, the Dummy Director of IHReview (Willis Carto is the
- real Director) that Elie Wiesel made that alleged statement
- in _Legends of our Time_. So now I will get myself a copy and
- see just what is (and just what is NOT) in there. IF the alleged
- quote really IS in there somewhere, then it is likely to have
- a different meaning when read in context than when read in isolation.
- The professor mentioned several paragraphs above is familiar with
- _Legends of out Time_, so if Wiesel had fully intended anything in
- there to be interpreted by his readers in a virulently anti-Germanic
- way, that is the way my professor whould have interpreted it - yet
- he did not.
-
- My system is scheduled to go down TODAY, so after it goes down, I
- will no longer be able to read news or to read/send e-mail.
- If anybody wishes to contact me, here is how I can be contacted:
-
- Cecelia Mu"ller (412) 682-2798
- P.O. Box 71222
- Pittsburgh, PA 15213
- USA
-
-
-
- ------"Engineering will protect you." (Mark then to Cecelia)
- "And so it already has." (Cecelia now to Mark)-------
-
- ------"Engineers will promptly admit their errors
- when proven wrong ..." (from the NSPE Code of
- Ethics for Engineers)--------------------------------
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