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- From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
- Subject: Chuck D. Interview
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- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:28:25 GMT
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- I was glancing across the AP "Junk" wire today, which includes lots of fun
- features and written in the NY Times, LA Times and Baltimore Sun, and I
- happened to come across this little number. According to the editors' side
- notes, this is an advance copy of something that should run on Sunday in some
- of your local papers. Enjoy.
-
- David J.
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- CHECKING IN WITH CHUCK D.
- By Robert Hilburn
- Los Angeles Times
- (reprinted without permission)
-
- WEST HOLLYWOOD, Calif. _ It's easy to understand why Public Enemy's Chuck
- D. looks tired as he slumps in a chair on the patio of a West Hollywood hotel
- the morning after the first of the rap group's two concerts with U2 recently
- at Dodger Stadium.<
- The problem, says the 32-year-old New Yorker, is that he has been on the
- run since Public Enemy started touring with U2 early last month.<
- To the pop world, however, Chuck D. seems to have been on the run non-stop
- for five years now.<
- It was 1987 when Public Enemy's debut album, ``Yo! Bum Rush the Show,''
- ushered in a new era in rap by adding a sense of social-political urgency and
- sophistication to a field that had been dismissed largely as lightweight.<
- Like Bob Marley in reggae during the '70s, Chuck D. (real name: Carlton
- Ridenhour) not only influenced a new generation of rappers, but also became an
- ambassador for the music. In that role, he helped expand the tough inner-city
- sound to a much wider audience.<
- By 1992 standards, some of Public Enemy's early tunes, including ``Prophets
- of Rage'' and ``Miuzi Weighs a Ton,'' are tame. But they were the first wave
- of hard-core, accusatory rap, and they were attacked at the time as everything
- from inflammatory to racist.<
- Chuck D. fought back in his music and in interviews, spreading a message of
- black pride and self-reliance that decried gang violence and drugs as quickly
- as it attacked governmental indifference and oppression. In 1988's ``Don't
- Believe the Hype,'' he declared, ``I'm not a hooligan. ... I'm not a
- racist.''<
- He continues to push boundaries, generating more criticism and alarm last
- year in the video for ``By the Time I Get to Arizona,'' which included a
- staged assassination of politicians. The song was a slap at Arizona officials
- for failing to join the rest of the nation in declaring a Martin Luther King
- Jr. holiday. (On Nov. 3, Arizona voters approved a ballot measure establishing
- a King holiday.)<
- The U2 tour should expand the audience for Public Enemy and rap even more,
- as the group performs before 50,000-plus fans a night.<
- During the hotel interview, rap's most acclaimed figure looked back on the
- last five years of rap and of Public Enemy.<
- <
- Q: How would you rate the state of rap today?<
- A: People used to say rap wasn't going to last ... rap wasn't going to
- grow. Well, we took it around the world four times, 36 countries, 22 tours,
- five albums. Now, the companies are all out there promoting it. There are rap
- sections 40 feet long in stores that once didn't want to carry any rap
- records.<
- Q: What do you think is the biggest public misconception about you?<
- A: Where do I start? I've heard it all. I guess the main thing is that a
- lot of people think I'm on some kind of search-and-destroy mission ... out to
- tear everything down. The truth is I have a great respect for this planet and
- God's creations. If anything, I'm on a live-and-learn mission. We all have to
- learn to live together. We have to coexist, and that means learning more about
- each other ... education. Too many people in this world are just trained to
- believe certain things, and it's hard to get them to change their mind. But
- the only tools you have are communication, education.<
- No one is going to agree on everything, but there is a starting place. The
- Earth is the only place we can live so we have to take care of it, and we have
- to respect each other because we need each other for our existence. We better
- start on those two points and build on from there.<
- Q: How did you develop your style ... your themes?<
- A: We wanted to be different from other artists _ so we would stand out.
- Everybody in rap at the time was talking about gold chains and being stupid,
- and (producer Hank Shocklee) and I wanted to find a new direction. What always
- gave rap a leg up on other musics was the anger in it, but the anger before
- was always directed at other rappers _ ``I'm better than you'' and so forth.
- When we came along, we decided to direct our anger at something real ... the
- government and people who were responsible for what was happening in society.
- If you look back at our first record, the subtitle is ``The Government Is
- Responsible.''<
- Q: What was the reaction in rap circles?<
- A: If you introduce something strong, there is always going to be mixed
- feelings. ... Some people will want to tune you out, but others might start
- checking you out, wanting to find out more. I'd say by the second album it was
- easier. You weren't alone in an empty room talking about a subject nobody else
- was talking about. Soon, pretty much everybody in rap seemed to be talking
- about real things.<
- Q: Do you feel a kinship to rappers like Ice Cube and Ice-T?<
- A: Absolutely. I was at Cube's the other night. We have to support each
- other as peers, as artists because I really do believe there is an underlying
- tone in America that doesn't want to see black men express themselves, whether
- what they're saying is right or wrong.... But that expression is essential if
- we are going to change things as a society.<
- Q: Are you any more optimistic about the future in America than you were
- five years ago?<
- A: I think rap music has brought a lot of the tensions and problems out
- into the open ... and that's not going to stop. There are new voices coming
- along all the time. But you have this tug of war.... You have something
- pulling people together, but then you have certain people who don't want to
- lose control, who don't want to lose money. As people work to try to get it
- better, there is something that is always going to try to throw salt in the
- game because they will lose something.<
- Q: What do you say to people who see the violence in the ``By the Time I
- Get to Arizona'' and hear the anger in the music and think you are
- irresponsible and dangerous?<
- A: I can't go into Scottsdale, Arizona, and talk to a whole bunch of 70-
- year-olds and say, ``Love me.'' My whole thing is you can't teach old dogs new
- tricks. It's their children and their grandchildren that I'm trying to reach.
- They're the ones who'll make the change, and I think that's the message and
- hope of the last five years.<
- The biggest gap in America is between white Americans 25 and under and
- white Americans 40 and over. Remember how they used to call it a generation
- gap? Well, it's a cultural gap now.<
- When I was growing up, there was a big gap between me and the white kids.
- They'd be off listening to Led Zep (Zeppelin), long hair, smoking hash. I was
- into playing ball and my own vibe. Now, you see a white kid and there is a
- white understanding of black culture 25 and under, and a feeling of, ``Damn,
- things really have been kinda (expletive) up. ... What can we do?''<
- And that understanding grows every time Ice Cube gets onstage at
- ``Lollapalooza'' or we go onstage with U2. The audience gets more information
- about conditions in this country. White America will get changed from its
- future rather than its past<
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