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- From: oispeggy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown)
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- Subject: Re: Of giving up and getting on..(was Women vs Men)
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- Date: 11 Nov 92 14:28:00 GMT
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- In article <JOSHUA.92Nov10122505@bailey.cpac.washington.edu>, joshua@cpac.washington.edu (Joshua Geller) writes...
-
- >> At one time the convent was an escape from the unpleasant
- >> alternative of being traded into marriage like a brood mare, but
- >> IMO this was an "out of the frying pan into the fire" solution.
-
- >maybe in the last few hundred years. in the middle ages (and later in
- >some parts of the world) things were quite different.
-
- OK, so it didn't *immediately* deteriorate to an *entirely* (IMO)
- crummy situation. There were spiritual marriages and co-ed abbeys,
- sometimes run by females, for awhile. However, the women were
- still dependent on the men for sacraments and still following
- religious guidelines set up by men. The church did not approve
- of women having autonomy or authority, so as time went on these
- things were eliminated. Women became less powerful and more
- controlled, even within their own religious orders.
-
- >hmmm? some female saints had quite a bit of temporal power.
-
- These were exceptions, and they were often at odds with church
- or political authorities. Also, they were still following a
- religion that did not allow them to fully participate in policy
- making.
-
- - Peggy -
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