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- From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
- Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.100115.1244@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
- Keywords: bots, are, lame.
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- Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
- References: <1992Nov9.115758.15047@ugle.unit.no> <1992Nov9.212604.25539@ra.oc.com> <BxH577.B2M@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:01:15 GMT
- Lines: 44
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- In article <BxH577.B2M@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
- >In article <1992Nov9.212604.25539@ra.oc.com> herm@merlin.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson) writes:
- >>/on public "* *re*" say say hi, Glurg;say say hi, Glurg
- >What does this prove? It's a "piece of shit" because it can be placed in an
- >infinite loop by any malicious person? That can be done with almost any
- >program... I once had a shell reading from and writing to the same file,
-
- This is not true. Any GOOD bot can easily detect when it is the victim of
- malicious intent. The point which herm didn't point out probably because
- he figured you'd be bright enough to figure it out yourself is that if some
- other smuck has a bot with similiar functions also left unattended and your
- bot wanders in, (you did say it wandered), then it's conceivable that the
- two bots will get stuck in a loop. In fact, this happens all the time on
- #botsex and #bottub where the endless on kick rejoin kick etcetc..
- bullshit goes on.
-
- There are just too many people out there that don't have a clue as to what
- they are doing when they run a bot. And MOST of them never even bother
- to figure out what everything in their bot does. I could probably
- write up some spiffy bot code, give it to any number of random ijuts
- and be able to do with them or their accounts as I please. They wouldn't
- even know what hit em. What's really scary is they would give it to
- someone else without realizing how dangerous it was.
-
- About now you should be jumping in about how we need alt.irc.bots, (another
- newgroup that 50% of the sites will ignore), so that people can learn how
- to write good bots. Well, I say, that's just bullshit. It would become
- a forum for posting your favorite bot code, and very little real understanding
- going on. If you want to learn how to write a bot then learn how the
- client works first. I think I can probably count the number of people
- that have read all the ircII help files on my fingers. I know count count the
- number of people who would be willing to write a bot in perl instead of
- ircII script, on my toes. And god forbid someone might write a bot in C
- instead. Hell, they might actually learn something.
-
- There's been a lot of "it could be this way, or it might be that way" but
- all I see day in and day out is how it IS, and how it WILL be.. people are
- lazy, and I'd rather not see another 500 unatteded flooding bots by lazy
- owners with big egos on lame channels.
-
- Ooooo.. if you're feeling really manly, you can whip out those flames and
- show us what you got.
-
- ian (Coming down from 2 weeks of 5-3 B+Trees.)
-