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- Newsgroups: alt.irc
- Path: sparky!uunet!mcsun!sunic!ugle.unit.no!unix1!gardabr
- From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
- Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.103304.25105@ugle.unit.no>
- Sender: news@ugle.unit.no (NetNews Administrator)
- Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
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- References: <1992Nov10.023612.174931@zeus.calpoly.edu>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:33:04 GMT
- Lines: 87
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- Just some loser... (asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu) wrote:
- : gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) was telling me...
- : >Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@merlin.etsu.edu) wrote:
- : >: In article <1992Nov6.084134.17493@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
- : >: >> I still feel alt.irc.bot would be useful (...)
- : >: NOT.
- : >I guess that is what we are discussing, or what?
- : >: > [..people message this dude becos they want to have a whizbang bot too..]
- : >Do you know how annoying that is?
- : >: > Also, programming techniques could be shared, so that all bots would be
- : >: Lame, weenie bots which give people a op (oh w0w) can be share/copied.
- : >I said PROGRAMMING TEXHNIQUES, and giving people an op can be a bit more than
- : >a single /on -join Gard mode $C +o $0
- : > As an example, I have on Glurg this one:
- :
- : [script deleted]
- :
- : It's basically the same thing. It just checks user@host and name...BFD.
- :
- : >This is not just an op, but an ensurement that only I will have my Nick - at
- : >least on channel #24892. This will prevent abuse of Glurg's mode commands.
- :
- : It's just an op.
-
- It makes sure that the Gard on #24892 is the real Gard. It was installed after
- someone entered #24892, chenged his nick to Gard, got an op with Glurg and used
- it to kick Glurg and everyone else out, making the channel private and banning
- quite a few people.
- :
- : >Also, earlier on, Glurg walked freely around on different channels commenting
- : >things, responding to whatever the people said, and in most cases, it would
- : >take quite a while or a /whois Glurg to discover that he was a bot. Now, that
- : >need a little more programming technique than a /on join Gard mode $C +o $0
- :
- : Not much more. /on public "*keyphrase" Oh joy.
- :
- I removed it because:
- 1) There was no good purpose for this.
- 2) There was no use of it.
- 3) There was no reason to have it.
-
- : >: >optimized accordingly, and we could have fewer bots because bot programmers
- : >:
- : >: Oh my god, the word bot, and optimized in the same sentence.
- : >
- : >Surprised by that? Optimizing could be like... having an assigned variable
- : >containing all the channels the bot is supposed to visit. and than just move
- : >a pointer every time he's supposed to visit a new channel, rather than having
- : >24892 on timer statements.
- :
- : Why they hell would you have a bot 'visit' channels? Why not just have
- : it on all the channels at once?
- :
- I have had a request of letting Glurg comment a bit on #Esperanto. To avoid
- putting yet another bot on IRC, I will let Glurg stay on BOT #24892 and
- #Esperanto.
-
- : >:
- : >: >could agree to have only ONE bot with that and that function, and so on,
- : >: There is no agreement. That is why we have bot wars.
- : >
- : >Of course there is no agreement - now. That is because the bot programmers
- : >don't have a forum in which they can get the agreement. Whilst on IRC, they
- : >are more interrested in debugging their bot or talking social stuff with
- : >others. A newsgroup like alt.irc.bots would work fine for that.
- :
- : Hardly. Ok...you tell me how to resolve this problem, and then maybe
- : it will work. Who would run this one bot? EVERYONE would want to run
- : it so they can say it's their bot. If someone else runs it it's no fun.
- : Why do you think so many people have them instead of sharing them?
- :
- I am currently working to make all the bot programmers at this school (MRIH) to
- put all the bots in one.
-
- : MsgServ was the original msg bot, and now with the password protected NoteServ
- : people still use the excuse of 'getting messages' for justification for
- : having a bot. WHen NoteServ already serves that purpose.
- :
- Glurg does not give me the messages when I join #24892, but when I logon to my
- account: He mails them to me. Also, if I'm not on IRC, but someone I'd like to
- speak with is, and I'm logged in on my account, Glurg will write me about this.
-
- : -Alex
- :
-
- Gard
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