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- From: herm@merlin.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson)
- Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov9.212604.25539@ra.oc.com>
- Keywords: bots, are, lame.
- Sender: usenet@ra.oc.com
- Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, Texas
- References: <1992Nov7.023211.6142@ra.oc.com> <1992Nov9.115758.15047@ugle.unit.no>
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:26:04 GMT
- Lines: 105
-
- gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
- >Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@merlin.etsu.edu) wrote:
- >: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
- >: >> I still feel alt.irc.bot would be useful (...)
-
- >: NOT.
-
- >I guess that is what we are discussing, or what?
-
- Look, there is certainly not enuff traffic in alt.irc to justify
- another newsgroup. If you wish to discuss ircII scripting take
- your shit to alt.irc.ircii. If you dont receive alt.irc.ircii
- ask yourself why not, and then ask yourself, if you dont receive
- this, will you receive alt.irc.bots?
-
- >: > [..people message this dude becos they want to have a whizbang bot too..]
-
- >Do you know how annoying that is?
-
- You placed the thing onto irc, you deal with it.
-
- >: > Also, programming techniques could be shared, so that all bots would be
-
- >: Lame, weenie bots which give people a op (oh w0w) can be share/copied.
-
- >I said PROGRAMMING TEXHNIQUES, and giving people an op can be a bit more than
- >a single /on -join Gard mode $C +o $0
- >[..simple irc script deleted..]
- >This is not just an op, but an ensurement that only I will have my Nick - at
- >least on channel #24892. This will prevent abuse of Glurg's mode commands.
-
- So glurg is your channel reserver, which makes sure YOU have op on YOUR
- channel now does it? Hey, why not just leave YOURSELF on that channel
- with no /ons but with yourself left as chanop? Wont that be as prestigious?
-
- >Also, earlier on, Glurg walked freely around on different channels commenting
- >things, responding to whatever the people said, and in most cases, it would
- >take quite a while or a /whois Glurg to discover that he was a bot. Now, that
- >need a little more programming technique than a /on join Gard mode $C +o $0
-
- If you think a automated client responding to things said on a channel
- by sending some message back to the channel is optimal or good robot
- ettiquete, you are sadly mistaken.
-
- >: >optimized accordingly, and we could have fewer bots because bot programmers
-
- >: Oh my god, the word bot, and optimized in the same sentence.
-
- >Surprised by that? Optimizing could be like... having an assigned variable
- >containing all the channels the bot is supposed to visit. and than just move
- >a pointer every time he's supposed to visit a new channel, rather than having
- >24892 on timer statements.
-
- is that the same optimized that means you need to fire up a whole ircII
- client to do a few simple messages/comparations/cutesy remarks on a channel?
- And then run another one for youself to talk to this thing?
-
- >: >could agree to have only ONE bot with that and that function, and so on,
-
- >: There is no agreement. That is why we have bot wars.
-
- >Of course there is no agreement - now. That is because the bot programmers
- >don't have a forum in which they can get the agreement. Whilst on IRC, they
-
- And there was I thinking IRC was an excellent tool for conversation,
- holding a real time forum. Maybe some of us have missed the point here.
-
- >are more interrested in debugging their bot or talking social stuff with
- >others. A newsgroup like alt.irc.bots would work fine for that.
-
- >: > (gardabr@unix1.mrih.no)
-
- >: herm
- >: (say NO to unattended bots)
-
- >say YES for better and more intelligent bots.
-
- > Gard Eggesboe Abrahamsen (gardabr@unix1.mrih.no)
- > "The world is 24892 atoms"
- >
-
- BTW, I just went onto irc to take a look at your automated client.
-
- Try this Mr Gard,
-
- /on public "* *re*" say say hi, Glurg;say say hi, Glurg
-
- then type:
-
- say hi, Glurg
-
- And watch the floods increase from 1,2,4,8,16,32,etc... messages. Great
- stuff Mr Gard, your stupid piece of shit WeenieBot floods the crap
- out of the channel.
-
- I guess if you were there when something like that happens you can
- kill your bot, or try to disable its bad functions, but you werent there!
-
- herm.
- (say NO to unattended bots)
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