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- From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: [news.sysadmin, et al.] Re: Contraband data on the Net (again)
- Message-ID: <BxJBBt.xE@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,news.sysadmin,news.admin.policy
- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:33:29 GMT
- Lines: 34
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- [A repost - Carl]
-
- Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,news.admin.policy
- From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
- Subject: Re: Contraband data on the Net (again)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov10.192754.847@netcom.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:27:54 GMT
-
- jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:
- >And that being the case, under
- >current precedent, certain federal law enforcement agencies can come
- >to every single Net site and seize every piece of electronic
- >equipment there. Yes, this includes YOU, even if your site is at
- >a powerful large corporation or major university. Admittedly, it's
- >not very likely, but it is possible, and it HAS HAPPENED. Sites
- >that were Netnews and UUCP nodes have been seized by the secret
- >service as "evidence" in cases involving "stolen" data,
-
- This is a gross exaggeration. For a while back in 1990, there
- were indeed problems like this. But after much legal and political
- effort, they have been mostly resolved. The two prosecutors most
- active in such activities (Cook and Thackary) lost their jobs.
- The Secret Service agents involved are being sued in Federal court.
- (Steve Jackson Games vs various persons). The Sturges case in San
- Francisco ended up being a big political embarassment for the FBI.
- Read "The Hacker Crackdown" and get up to date.
-
- We may see seizures incident to felony arrests, but I don't
- think that at least Federal law enforcement will do any more BBS seizures
- unless they have a good chance of a felony conviction.
-
- John Nagle
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- Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
-