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- From: churayj@yalevm.edu (raymond Chung)
- Subject: Re: automotive design and architecture
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- Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:41:49 GMT
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- olasov@cs.columbia.edu (Ben Olasov) wrote:
- > I could imagine a car with boxy, Jeepish shaped chassis with
- > 'industrial' detailing such as exposed, finely machined rivets
- > on the surface that would be interesting and something like beautiful,
- > yet not based on an aerodynamic image.
-
- Not aerodynamic, but still completely derived from
- function/material/structure, and not from an external vocabulary. For
- example, a hood ornament can literally express how a car is to be
- understood as a jaguar (extra-referential). Rivets do not bring the Jeep
- into the level of metaphor or allegory. It's still a machine.
-
- > The cultural expectations of architecture are substantial, maybe
- > greater than that for automobiles, partially because architecture has
- > to exist by public consensus in some limited way. Architecture is
- > specifically designed to support the things we do and reflect the
- > things we value, both of which are continuously changing. In that
- > sense, architecture is a way of defining culture, which is why it's an
- > essential way we analyze the condition of a society at a given moment
- > in history.
-
- I've heard it said over and over again that architecture represents a
- culture's mores, etc, and I've never accepted it. If anything,
- architecture represents an architect's values and fits a client's function.
-
- How is it justifiable to inflate the practice of architecture to such a
- heroic, important scale? Sure, building involves many people from all
- different areas of society (construction, community, business, government,
- et al.) but ultimately, this mass of people is nothing more than a handful
- of individuals arguing in a bubble. Do such individuals automatically
- represent a culture? I think they more represent the state of architecture
- as being determined by an architect's trained aesthetic values and a
- client's ability to resist the ugly.
-
- I have found that many people today when they see a new building go up do
- not feel that they are in a position to judge the architecture, for they
- feel uneducated in the language of building. So they accept it as
- architecture, an esoteric, highly intellectual issue left to architects and
- their clients. Out here in our art school world, how can we even pretend
- that we have the responsibility to represent a society's values, whatever
- they may be? Architects have always forced aesthetics on their society,
- never the other way around. We only claim that our designs succeed in
- representing contemporary social values, and who's to argue with the
- arbiters of taste themselves?
-
- Perhaps there is no such thing as being able to "represent a culture's
- values" and it is only a phrase architects have fabricated in order to
- ambush complaints of ugliness. After all, the history of architecture is
- marked by the architect's egomaniacal urge to design anew, and not to
- serve.
-
- ? = ! > .
- raymond Chung
-