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- From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
- Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
- Subject: Re: Callable Notes question.
- Message-ID: <14OCT199210583665@spades.aces.com>
- Date: 14 Oct 92 17:58:00 GMT
- References: <1992Oct8.100246.4634@dmc.com> <1992Oct9.213352.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> <1992Oct12.231359.4635@dmc.com> <1992Oct14.000835.4642@dmc.com>
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- News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1
-
- I'm going to steer away from the insulting verbiage, because I believe
- Dick truly believes he's right and isn't being any more insulting than
- I was:
-
- In article <1992Oct14.000835.4642@dmc.com>, munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
- writes...
- #In article <13OCT199203395199@spades.aces.com>, [I wrote:]
- #>
- #> Paul was right, it is gotten from SYS$NODE... It is easy to verify this:
- ..
- #
- #What in the world makes you think I DIDN'T try this?
- ..
- #To produce a counter example for your statement:
- #
- #HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ sho log/full sys$node
- # "SYS$NODE" [exec,crelog] = "HULK::" [terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
- #HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ define/system/exec/trans=terminal sys$node foo::
- #%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of SYS$NODE has been superseded
- #HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ sho log/full sys$node
- # "SYS$NODE" [exec] = "FOO::" [terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
- #
- #after creating a new note in a local notes file:
-
- [Then he shows how the note still reads HULK::user instead of FOO::user]
-
- It probably wasn't a local (on your same node) notes file.
-
- #Note 3.0 test No replies
- #HULK::MUNROE 2 lines 13-OCT-1992
- # this is a test
- #--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- #
- #Note that HULK is STILL present in the topic header, clearly indicating that
- #the translation does NOT come from SYS$NODE.
-
- Watch:
- VESTA:[GAVRON]_sho log/full sys$node
- "SYS$NODE" [exec,crelog] = "VESTA::" [terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
- VESTA:[GAVRON]_notes/inter=char
- Notes> Notes> open sample
- Opening conference NOTES$SAMPLE
- Note 1.8 Welcome to VAX Notes 8 of 8
- VESTA::GAVRON 1 line 14-OCT-1992 10:
- 48
- -< testing >-
-
- VESTA:[GAVRON]_def/sys/exec sys$node "DICK::"
- Previous value of SYS$NODE has been superseded
- VESTA:[GAVRON]_notes/inter=char
- Note 2.2 Choosing an editor to use in VAX Notes 2 of 2
- DICK::GAVRON 1 line 14-OCT-1992 10:
- 49
- -< you're wrong dick >-
- VESTA:[GAVRON]_sho log sys$Node/full
- "SYS$NODE" [exec] = "DICK::" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
-
-
- Works for me.
-
- #So, as usual, Ehud shoots his mouth off and gets it wrong.
-
- I shoot my mouth off, but I don't get it wrong. That's why
- they keep giving me paychecks and atto'boys [10**-18 pats on back]
-
- #Clearly something is going on that neither one of us understands completely.
-
- It makes perfect sense, as shown here.
- When accessing a notes file on the SAME NODE, the nodename field
- is filled by the translation of SYS$NODE in executive mode. The
- terminal attribute is not relevant.
-
- When accessing a notes file on a remote node, the nodename field
- is filled by the remote ncp database translation of the DECnet
- connection address.
-
- #Now I haven't tried actually creating the logical using the SYS$CRELOG system
- #service, but that's because I haven't got any documentation old enough to
- #refresh my memory of the interface.
-
- It's not necessary. You had the right logical, but not a local
- conference...
-
- #--
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-
- Ehud
-
- --
- Ehud Gavron (EG76)
- gavron@vesta.sunquest.com
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