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- Subject: RE: Tracking Messages
- Message-ID: <718629928.116344.KLENSIN@INFOODS.MIT.EDU>
- From: John C Klensin <klensin@infoods.mit.edu>
- Date: 09 Oct 1992 07:25:28 -0400 (EDT)
- Organization: The Internet
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- >I loathe the silly messages
- >myself and news that modern NJE implementations feel this way is most
- >welcome personally. Speaking as a developer, it has proved quite difficult
- >to provide an environment that maximizes the likelihood that these messages
- >will be produced and directed properly.
-
- Just to add one more comment to this to put things in perspective... On
- VM/CMS, mail has traditionally been kept a bit more separated from file
- transfers than it has been with JNET (with or without PMDF). If I send
- a file, I get back the little progress messages to the extent that
- intermediate hosts send them. But, if I send mail, it goes to a mailer
- machine, which does the actual transferring. The progress messages then
- go to the mailer, which discards them (it makes no attempt to forward
- them to the user). I can tell the mail user agent to send the message
- "direct" (i.e., without the mailers intervening) but, in doing so, I
- lose whatever services mailers might provide, including the ability to
- specify addresses that consist of more than an 8-character user id and
- an 8-character user id.
-
- PMDF may have suffered from an excess of zeal in trying to support this
- in the first place. :-)
- john
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