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- From: ned@sigurd.innosoft.com (Ned Freed)
- Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.pmdf
- Subject: RE: Tracking Messages
- Message-ID: <01GPPLMV0CNG8Y4WWN@SIGURD.INNOSOFT.COM>
- Date: 8 Oct 92 22:27:30 GMT
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- > Can you point me to a section in the 4.1 manual that might discuss how, why and
- > when you get messages back from each node (hop) when you send mail.
-
- This is described in passing throughout the chapter on BITNET.
-
- > You know what messages I mean, the ones that say things like:
-
- > (SNYONEVA) - Sent file 6718 on link SNYBUFVA to SNYBUFVA BROWNRN
- > (SNYBUFVA) - File (6718) spooled to BROWNRN -- origin SNYONEVA(GREENBJB) 10/08/9 2 10:17:15 EDT
-
- You will get these messages when the message orginates from your username on
- the local host and the messages can make it back to you. It is as simple as
- that. The question then is when are messages marked this way. This brings the
- full complexity of address rewriting and handling into the picture.
-
- PMDF tries to make this happen as much as possible but cannot guarantee it.
- There are many cases where it isn't possible. Here are a few of them:
-
- (0) The bit_ channel you use is, for some reason, marked nolocaluser, blocking
- the use of local user names in the BITNET message envelope.
- (1) You aren't a local user sending mail directly from VMS MAIL or some other
- user agent on the local machine/cluster.
- (2) Your configuration is failing to map all local host aliases to the
- local channel.
- (3) You choose to identify the message as coming from someone else.
- (4) The message is produced by expansion of a mailing list which specifies
- an override envelope From: address.
- (5) Your BITNET gateway machine cannot get the message back to you to print
- them.
- (6) Your terminal is /NOBROADCAST.
- (7) Your username is too long (>8 characters).
-
- > I need to understand the details of these messages better so I know why we
- > sometimes get them and sometimes don't.
-
- The above list is far from inclusive.. The situation is so complex and
- convoluted it simply isn't feasible to answer this question precisely and in
- one place.
-
- Ned
-