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- From: sa114984@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Steven Arnold)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: In Suzanne's Defense
- Message-ID: <Oct12.020807.49221@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
- Date: 12 Oct 92 02:08:07 GMT
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- In article <1992Oct9.154351.12787@athena.mit.edu>, purdon@cons1.mit.edu (James Purdon) writes:
- |> In article <1992Sep30.050730.10253@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c164-ad@po.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero) writes:
- |>
- |> >As I've said time and time again, sperm isn't human life! No scientist
- |> >or biologist will agree with you on that assertion.
- |>
- |> I hate to be the one to cast the cold clear light of reason upon your
- |> blissful ignorance, but here's one holder of advanced degrees in biology
- |> who has done some original research (which ought to qualify me for the
- |> title of "scientist") who agrees that human sperm and ova are human life.
- |>
- |> As a matter of fact, human sperm and ova are the dominant form of
- |> humanity by numbers alone. We of the diploid generations are few and
- |> far between, compared to our haploid children.
- |>
- |> Lets play twenty questions:
- |>
- |> Q. Are sperm and ova comprised of human protoplasm?
- |> A. Yes.
- |>
- |> Q. Do sperm and ova possess human chromosomes?
- |> A. Yes.
- |>
- |> Well, gee. Looks like sperm and ova must be human!
- |>
- |> Q. Are sperm and ova alive?
- |> A. Yes, at least until they die.
- |>
- |> Well, gosh. Looks like sperm and ova are human life! And that only
- |> took three questions.
- |>
- |> But wait, there's more:
- |>
- |> Q. Are sperm and ova independent entities?
- |> A. Yes.
- |>
- |> Q. Are sperm and ova genetically unique individuals?
- |> A. Yes.
-
- I agree with all this. So what? Medically, a member of a given species
- will eventually develop into an adult of that species if not killed and if given
- nutrition. Neither sperm nor ova count, by that definition (which is the
- standard medical definition), as human beings. "The cold clear light of
- reason," as you so poetically call it, is really just your pair of
- rose-colored glasses at work again.
-
- Steve
-
- gore Clinton in '92
-