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- From: cmenzel@tamsun.tamu.edu (Chris Menzel)
- Subject: Re: The Mathematical Universe
- Message-ID: <1992Oct8.155519.20021@tamsun.tamu.edu>
- Keywords: inconsistent multiplicities
- Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
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- Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:55:19 GMT
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- In article <1992Oct8.050325.22915@guinness.idbsu.edu> holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
- >The reason why I maintain that alternate physical universes exist is
- >that I also maintain that the physical world is a "mathematical
- >object" (say, for the sake of argument, a function with domain R^{4}
- >and values expressing the intensities of various fields at given
- >places and times; I am not committed to a specific description of this
- >kind).
-
- Zur\"uck zu Pythagoras! As I recall, Quine suggested a similar idea
- some years ago, but I can't remember where; "Ontological Relativity"
- maybe. Pythagoreanism notwithstanding, I take it you don't think the
- physical world is *literally* a mathematical object, if only for the
- fact that, as you yourself hint, any number of other mathematical
- objects would have served just as well.
-
- >There are, of course, many other functions of the same general
- >kind as the one to be identified with the physical universe, some of
- >which satisfy the same "natural laws" as ours. These latter ones are
- >the "possible worlds" to which I am referring.
-
- Seems to me that, on this story alone, there is no basis for saying
- that one of these alternative functions satisfies the same natural
- laws as ours, since those functions only describe what actually
- happens in fact in those worlds. To say that certain natural laws
- obtain you have to be able to say that those worlds support certain
- sorts of couterfactuals, i.e., relative to those worlds you have to be
- able to be able to talk about what *would* happen under certain
- conditions, and for this you need at least some notion of "closeness"
- or "similarity" of worlds a la Robert Stalnaker or David Lewis for
- understanding counterfactual discourse. (E.g., p counterfactually
- implies q iff q is true in the closest world in which p is true.)
- Even this though is rather uncomfortably Humean for us gonzo realists.
-
- >The opinions expressed | --Sincerely,
- >above are not the "official" | M. Randall Holmes
- >opinions of any person | Math. Dept., Boise State Univ.
- >or institution. | holmes@opal.idbsu.edu
-
- --Chris Menzel
- Philosophy Department
- Texas A&M University
-